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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    What was the name of the REAL journalist who checked this out? I know I've asked this before, I get mixed up between some of the names when I can't put faces to them. She was also interviewed on Boyles when the Karr fiasco broke (round about the same time as you were).
    Was it Laura Ingle?

    The whole Karr and Gigax stuff really outrages me.
    It outrages me as well! Gigax has suffered enough at the hands of pus-brained idiots who can't seem to understand plain English.

    Boulder DA investigator, Tom Bennett, stated unequivocably that John Steven Gigax was not, and never has been, a suspect in the Ramsey case.

    Most importantly, Gigax has proof through dated and time-stamped store receipts (as well as witnesses) that he was not in Colorado at the time of JonBenet's death.

    Copies of those receipts have been shown on national TV, but that doesn't stop evil and malicious people like Mary Suma (Mame) and others from persecuting an innocent man. They are viciously trying to destroy an innocent human being.

    That is the Ramsey's legacy; not the pursuit of justice for JonBenet, but the active and vengeful destruction of innocent lives.

    Michael Tracey and his band of goofy gumshoes (Ollie, Smit, and San Augustin) LIED. I repeat, THEY LIED. It was never difficult to find Gigax, and all their alleged evidence was nothing more than innuendo piled on top of idiocy, packaged in such a way that they thought no one would ever expose their con job. Michael Tracey actually ADMITTED he never really thought Gigax was a suspect when he stated that he believed John Mark Karr was the real intruder all along.

    It is apparent that for Ramsey apologists and supporters, any innocent person will do when you need an "intruder" in order to prove Ramsey innocence and rehabilitate their image - which was the central theme of Michael Tracey's fact-deficient crocumentaries.

    Michael Tracey ABUSED the good name and person of John Gigax in order to sell a product and make money.

    It is absolutely disgusting that Tracey has the nerve to teach classes on media and ethics. What a repulsive joke. It's like having Hitler teach classes on appreciation for Jewish culture.

    Why isn't John Ramsey campaigning for the DNA backlog to be cleared? Why isn't he campaigning for familial DNA testing to be introduced? Why isn't he actively pursuing justice for his daughter?
    Because he already knows the answer.

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    Was it Laura Ingle?
    Isn't she from Little House on the Prairie? LOL

    No that isn't a name I am familiar with. This is a well known journalist whom one would associate with the Ramsey case. Maybe blonde haired? I'm hesitating to say Carol McKindley but it might have been her. Tricia would know.

    ETA, this woman I am thinking on has a careful manner. I got a sense that she was really considering the questions before answering. Does that sound like Carol McKindley. Is she from Colorado?
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Yeah, thanks, RR.

    Interesting how they love a wanted fugitive at the swamp, making all the usual excuses: oh, the wife loves him, they rode off in the sunset together because LE tried to protect the wife, and she didn't want protection, she wanted her abusive husband, and she is an adult and if she wants to be abused, that's THEIR BUSINESS. BAD LE!!

    Oh, how common is this argument? Let the wife-abusers off the hook, and they'll do it again...because they KNOW they'll get away with it, people will protect them, and the wife most likely will, as well. Therefore...the FUGITIVE LEE HILL IS THE VICTIM! BAD LE!!

    Tricky how they always do this at the swamp, isn't it? The abuser always becomes the victim there. Up is down. Bad is good. And it's ALWAYS everyone else's fault!!

    Who is Lee Hill??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post

    Isn't she from Little House on the Prairie? LOL
    Hahaha. That's Laura INGALLS, Miss Smarty Pants! :bigstick:

    ETA, this woman I am thinking on has a careful manner. I got a sense that she was really considering the questions before answering. Does that sound like Carol McKindley. Is she from Colorado?
    Yes, Carol McKinley was the Denver Fox News correspondent. And now that you mention it, I remember Carol did do a news report on Michael Tracey's lies about John Gigax. Carol McKinley is a awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    Hahaha. That's Laura INGALLS, Miss Smarty Pants! :bigstick:



    Yes, Carol McKinley was the Denver Fox News correspondent. And now that you mention it, I remember Carol did do a news report on Michael Tracey's lies about John Gigax.
    I thought it was her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Who is Lee Hill??????
    Isn't he on the run? Was he a friend of Mame's? Did he have something to do with the selling of Ramsey case information?

    Don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Who is Lee Hill??????
    Excerpt from a post made by Tricia here at FFJ on August 20, 2003 -



    Walter Leon Hill aka Lee Hill formerly attorney at law.

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    Why is he important in the JonBenet Ramsey case? Because he is a connection. He has a connection and there is a warrant out for his arrest. Because Lee Hill was part of one of the worst attacks on an innocent family we have ever been witness to. Lee Hill is still very much a part of the JBR case.

    Lee Hill originally questioned John Ramsey under oath in a little known lawsuit.

    Lee Hill represented Stephen Miles, a local photographer who is sued the Ramseys, the National Enquirer and two of the supermarket tabloid's reporters for libel, slander and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
    In his lawsuit, Miles alleges he was defamed by two Enquirer articles published in the fall of 1997. The articles labeled Miles a pedophile and quoted an unnamed source as saying John Ramsey believed the photographer killed his daughter.

    Ramsey has denied making any such statements, and the Enquirer's attorneys contend that Miles is, in fact, a pedophile.

    Lee Hill deposed John Ramsey mid-October 1998

    http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ram...98/18rams.html

    Fast forward to the year 2000

    In February of 2000 Nancy Krebs was watching Fox News. She saw Lee Hill being interviewed. Nancy went to a phone booth and called him. She felt that she could trust Hill.

    Lee Hill is the man, along with Steven Singular, who brought Nancy Krebs to Boulder and started one of the most outrageous attacks on an innocent man's character I have ever seen. The whole story turned out to be a lie. Yet even though, through recently released public documents, it's been proven that Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter and Boulder Daily Camera Editor Barrie Hartman were aware from the start that Krebs had a history of lying to law enforcement both of them went forward to give Nancy Krebs credibility. To the shock of many in law enforcement.

    Lee Hill was there every day. Calling, Pushing. Desperately trying to perpetrate Nancy Krebs’ lies.

    Whether Nancy believed she was telling the truth or knew she was lying can be argued either way.

    What were the lies Nancy told the authorities?

    Fleet White Sr. killed JonBenet Ramsey. By the way Fleet White Sr. would have been in his mid 80’s when the death of JonBenet occurred. Fleet White Jr and John Ramsey were in a pedophile sex ring. Abusing children. There were movies made. Movies that were sold for profit.

    The story Nancy Krebs told was absurd. Claiming that members of her family were at the White's party the night JonBenet was murdered which the police, according to the just released documents, were able to prove to be false.

    Many people now have access to the whole file on the Nancy Krebs case . You will see many people posting parts of the file on forums discussing the JonBenet case. Why? Because it was the handful of people on the Internet that shoved this crap down our throats. Mocking us when we asked to see the evidence. Having seen the file myself now I know why. Now we will post the truth. The whole truth.

    In the words of Nancy Krebs' own police department from her hometown, Nancy is a "5150." CRAZY. That's their term. Not mine.

    The absurdity of this saga of the JonBenet Ramsey case continues on.

    Fleet White has fought long and hard to get the people responsible, the people who should have known better, held accountable for their actions. So far no luck. But after all this is Boulder. Where else could a woman breeze into town with a far out story of ritual abuse, sex rings, conspiracies, and not only be taken seriously but have the local newspapers hail her as the "Mystery Witness" who could break the case wide open. Anywhere else in the country she would have been seen for what she is. In my opinion she is a disturbed individual. It’s been proven she has lied to law enforcement before.

    Lee Hill was a driving force behind the Krebs debacle. Behind the attempted destruction of an innocent man. Why? I don't know. Could Hill have wanted fame? Perhaps. Was Hill part of a bigger plan? A plan that involved others? Could be. You will have to decide as we present the evidence.

    Lee Hill was afforded all kinds of publicity when Nancy Krebs came into Boulder with her outlandish story. TV, Newspapers, Radio. He seemed to be the darling of the media if you will.

    Then on Aug. 2002 Lee Hill allegedly held a loaded gun to his wife's head. He was arrested. He was released on bond, which included the stipulation of, "No contact with weapons of any kind." Legally maneuvering took place. He was again arrested. Evidence was suppressed. The battle continued on.

    Yet not one media outlet has covered the Lee Hill story except his first arrest in Aug. 2002. No big headlines warning the people of Boulder that this once great attorney, who brought the "mystery witness" into their lives, is on the lam and is armed. Nothing. Their silence is deafening.

    http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive.../newsspin.html

    (scroll for the Lee Hill story)

    Could it be the media is embarrassed by how they embraced Hill and now just want him to go away? Barrie Hartman of the Boulder Daily Camera should be mortified at how he backed Hill and Krebs. Yet not a word from that ace journalist Barrie Hartman.

    Here is where the story stands as of today.

    Lee Hill was arrested on June 25th 2003. Driving without a license, no insurance, more importantly, Lee Hill's bond was still in effect, which meant NO CONTACT WITH WEAPONS. Lee Hill was found with over 25 knives in his car. Many homemade it appears. Also Lee Hill had filed down a key ring full of keys to deadly points. Once again he was arrested and his weapons confiscated. He was released and a few days later, inexplicably, he was allowed to collect his weapons and leave. Why the BPD gave Lee Hill back his weapons is beyond me. He was under an order of the court not to have any. But they did. He jumped bond and hasn't been seen since.

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    Thanks so much for that post. Is Lee Hill a lawyer also?

    There truly are some incredible low lifes out there, but the fact that Boulder even entertained this says volumes and the fact that he was given his "tools" back also says volumes. Do they not care about their children or their citizens in Boulder. It boggles the mind.

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    I read a synopsis of Singular's book a few years back and I knew right then and there he was bogus. Never bought it or read further. He was on TV the other day - I can't remember for what nor do I care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Thanks so much for that post. Is Lee Hill a lawyer also?
    He was. His license to practice law has been revoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    I read a synopsis of Singular's book a few years back and I knew right then and there he was bogus. Never bought it or read further. He was on TV the other day - I can't remember for what nor do I care.

    HAHAHAHA Maimed thinks Singular hung the moon.

    That's because Singular is a "celebrity" and published author, not to mention, talks to maimed. OH, and Singular orginally promoted NANCY KREBS' CHILD SEX RING theory, as well, along with Lee. The book you're referring to which Singular wrote early on purports that JonBenet's murder was committed by...wait for it...A CHILD SEX RING! Singular is the man Hunter sent to California to "look into" Fleet White, as well. Singular was also in the original meeting with Hunter and Lee Hill, when Hill "presented" Krebs' wacky lies to Hunter and a BPD detective the first time. We're supposed to believe that Nancy Krebs just came out of "nowhere" a few years AFTER the murder to make her looney accusations.

    Think...a MOVIE deal! Fame! Fortune! Well, "it was said" that was the motivation behind the whole Krebs scam. Some people took the bait, hook, line, and sinker. Amazing how gullible some people are, isn't it?

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
    FF: WRKJB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    He was. His license to practice law has been revoked.

    Not to mention, it's hard to practice law when you're a fugitive avoiding capture.

    He's probably in Boulder anyway. Living next door to Lacy.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
    FF: WRKJB?

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