Cybersleuths has been freed!

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Show Me, Nov 12, 2004.

  1. Elle

    Elle Member

    I cannot add a single thing to all you have said about Jameson, Jay. I agree with you. She's putting out some bait, and hoping some big fish will catch it, and they probably will! Maybe The National Enquirer will give her a call (?).
     
  2. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    I think she's trying to justify her business decisions by faulting others. But I'm still of the opinion someone is hounding her for that post to have been made two days ago.

    She paid for two years long after others moved on - no, what she did is continue to profit from membership dues for two years long after others had moved on.
     
  3. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    I don't think any tabloids are going to look for anti-Ramsey stories. Maybe she'll write a book. I think she could write one. I got the impression from something she posted a while back that she lacked the confidence to do it, but her writing skills aren't that bad. Would she find a publisher? I think that would be a stumbling block. She COULD publish it herself or make it an e-book like other have. Advantage is less outlays for the writer, disadvantage would be keeping tabs on copyright.

    She's not got much more to lose regarding the Ramsey case and it sounds as though she is either coming to her senses by seeing the Ramseys as others have seen them for a while .... or .... she's fizzing mad about something she won't discuss because she's hoping to make a sale from it someday!
     
  4. Elle

    Elle Member

    I was thinking if the NE could bring out "The Police Files" in paperback, they could oblige Jameson by publishing her book. After all, she did hand over the tapes to the NE. All things considered, I think it would sell because Jameson did make personal contact with the Ramseys, which is more than any one of us can claim.

    Jams has already stated how fizzed off she is with the Ramseys :hopmad: . They ignored her offer to take over the JonBenét Ramsey site, and they just continue to give her the cold shoulder. What would you do in a case like this, Jay? They deserve her retaliation. Serves them right for getting involved with Jameson in the first place. They can thank their buddy Susan Stine for having introduced them. :abnormal:
     
  5. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    WY: "Apparently jameson's buns of steel aren't as impenetrable as she claims, since she seems to have scabs on them."

    Nothing is as she claims.

    Jayelles: "her writing skills aren't that bad."

    I think they are.

    ps - And I am especially wary when I read anything she writes following these words: "truth be told."
     
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  6. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    I read and evaluate books as part of my remit. It's tedious and has to a large extent killed reading for me as a leisure pursuit. However, I have acquired the ability to force myself to read things whether they interest me or not and that is very useful.

    Regarding the writings of posters ... there are many posters whose writing I find harder going than jameson's. I rarely have to read anything she writes more than once. I also think her writing has improved over the years (only natural considering the fact that she was writing and reading so many posts). I think she probably writes as she would speak.

    The point is not whether anything she wrote would be a true account but rather whether she COULD write a book herself. I think she could although I'm not sure that she thinks she could.

    I think there are one or two potential opportunities for her to make a LOT of money. Whether she realises that is another matter.
     
  7. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    Hi, Jayelles - differing opinion here; mine isn't professional. I think her writing skills are that bad.

    There's an article in today's Texarkana Gazette about the editor of the Atlanta, Texas, Citizens Journal - the man who turned me on to jameson's internet forum by an article he wrote two or three years ago. He later denounced her, called himself a bonehead for ever associating with her, and ended up with computer child porn charges against him. It says he "stands charged with one count of possession of material involving the sexual exploitation of minors and one count of receiving child poronography."

    Former editor faces revised indictment @ texarkanagazette.com

    I don't know if it's online yet or not. Whether jameson makes tons of money or not doesn't matter to me; that she reports the money she's made does.
     
  8. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    "He later denounced her, called himself a bonehead for ever associating with her, and ended up with computer child porn charges against him."

    :idea:
     
  9. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    I'm a bit confused. Is he blaming jameson for his child pornography charge? Also, do you have a reference for his denouncement of jameson? I don't remember this, but it could well have passed me by.
     
  10. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    No, he's not blaming jameson - not that I know of. I don't know where folks get their child porn from. Could he have got it from her?

    There are references for his denouncement of jameson. I'll look for some.
     
  11. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    Here's one.

    This was in an early January 04 edition of the Atlanta, Texas, Citizens Journal.
    I'm leaving some stuff out.

    "Forum wins an AWARD"

    THE MILKING THE OLD JERSEY FOR WHAT SHE'S WORTH AWARD goes to Jameson, who operates the infamous Butts website.
    The website, as I have written before, turned into a sleazy, after-hours retreat for people with time on thier hands, hate in their hearts and fantasy in the minds.

    Somewhere along the way Jameson went from calling herself a quiet, little housewife to calling herself a journalist and in the process she began to open websites about virtually anything anyone was willing to pay for. I think a Michael Jackson website might bring in a few bucks.
    ...

    I personally give myself the BONEHEAD OF THE YEAR AWARD for the second year in a row for having a role in setting up the website in the hopes that it would bring new information on the murders forward.
     
  12. Texan

    Texan FFJ Senior Member

    hhmmmm

    Maybe the porn charge comes from something Jameson found - a picture that she said was of Ariana Pugh and her dad, which has been proven wrong. It is definitely someone else, but maybe he downloaded that image or something.
     
  13. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    One Never Knows, Texan.

    News

    Former editor faces revised indictment
    Monday, November 22, 2004 11:34 AM CST

    By LISA BOSE McDERMOTT
    Texarkana Gazette


    A revised indictment has been handed down by a federal grand jury against a Cass County newspaper editor.

    Charles Harrist Jr. stands charged with one count of possession of material involving the sexual exploitation of minors and one count of receiving child pornography, according to revised federal indictment filed on Nov. 9.

    The revised-or superseding-indictment, is similar to the original indictment filed on April 6. Prosecutors say it has merely been fine-tuned.

    Harrist's lawyer, Billy Harrell of Texarkana, Texas, declined to comment about the case.

    Since the original indictment was handed down the original prosecutor, Assistant U.S. Attorney Barry Bryant, of Texarkana, was temporarily dispatched to work for a year in the executive office of the U.S. Attorney in Washington D.C. The case was transferred to Assistant U.S. Attorney Alan R. Jackson of Tyler.

    The indictment drafted by Jackson includes a notice of forfeiture. This means that if Jackson is successful in prosecuting Harrist, government officials intend to claim a Computer King computer, a Fujitsu hard drive and a Western Digital hard drive, according to court documents.

    Harrist is scheduled to be arraigned in U.S. District Court in Marshall, Texas on Dec. 2 by U.S. District Judge T. John Ward. Harrist, who will have to enter a plea for the charges, has been maintaining his innocence in the case.

    The case surfaced in March when a search warrant filed against Harrist was unsealed. The affidavit that supported the search warrant explained that Harrist took his computer to a repair shop for work. The technician found images and reported her findings to the Cass County Sheriff's Office.

    The computer was sent to a cybercrime lab at the Longview Police Department.

    Lt. Ray Copeland, who commands the Criminal Investigation Division, said the investigation includes assistance from the Atlanta Police Department, FBI and the Texas Department of Public Safety's Special Crimes unit.
     
  14. Show Me

    Show Me FFJ Senior Member

    I'm confused....is it Bluefire?
     
  15. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    A year after introducing the community of Atlanta, Texas, to jameson's forum, Charley Harrist printed this in the Citizens Journal, in a Point Blank column. I'm leaving quite a bit out, but figure you can get the jest of his denouncing jameson.

    Butts websie gone awry - July 10, 2002

    A year ago journalist Sonny Long and I lent our support to a Butts murder case website hosted by a lady by the name of jameson from North Carolina.

    It was our hope and intent that it might be a forum for new information to come forward in the now 10-year-old murder case.

    … When the group began to circulate their bumper stickers and mount a public awareness campaign, I chose not to participate or promote it. They were, after all, promoting the website.

    Another broken promise by jameson and her website is that it would not be a forum to vilify a suspect arrested shortly after the triple murder of Jan 27, 1992 (Kevin Hailey). No effort has been made by the moderator to comply with that promise.


    About the bumper stickers - this is so almost funny as an afterthought - there were 50 stickers made saying

    "WHO KILLED THE BUTTS FAMILY? www. websleuths.com"

    - one b. You can imagine that the swamptress wasn't happy about that back in 02.
     
  16. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    The original article

    Here's the original article that turned me on:

    Article in the Atlanta, Texas Citizens Journal - July 8, 2001

    Website offers open forum on Butts' murder
    How does a shy housewife living in North Carolina suddenly become a suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case in Colorado?

    Well, that's a long story, but this reclusive figure who goes by jameson (with a small J) has joined forces with two journalists from Atlanta, Texas, and a man who will just be known as "Sam" and has created a website that hopefully will eventually shed some light on a murder case that has baffled authorities for almost a decade.

    Atlanta journalists Sonny Long and Charley Harrist and Sam have provided jameson with public documents connected to the Jan 27, 1992 triple homicide of an Atlanta woman, Gerri Faye Butts, and her two children, Jessica, 11, and MacKenzie, 3.

    What jameson is doing is building a website that wil be devoted to an open forum on the unsolved Butts case.

    Does it work?

    A website she created on the JonBenét Ramsey murder case has received national recognition and has made an enormous impact on that much publicized case.

    Already since she first posted information on the Butts site back on June 25, hundreds have visited the website and made comments or asked questions.

    Local newsman and writer Long has been involved from the beginning.

    "I've covered the case since the day it happened, and am glad to do anything I can to help keep it alive and this messsage board seems like a great idea." Long said of the website.

    "I've followed the Butts case from afar until I moved back here in the last couple of years," Harrist said, "I have been amazed by the misinformation I have heard regarding this case."

    Harrist said he contacted Long after hearing from jameson to see what he thought about the possibility of working together to try to create new dialog on the stagnant case.

    "I have a lot of respect for Sonny and appreciate his interest in the case and have read most of his stories over the years about a case that I realize has become very personal to him." Harrist said.

    It's a shame that no one has been brought to justice for these horrendous crimes," Long said. "We're talking about a a great little town here - a place I've chosen to live - and someone who committed a triple murder - someone who murdered children - is walking around among us. That scares and saddens me."

    Three days after the murders, Long's father died.

    "So those two events have always been kind of inseparable for me," Long said. "It's emotional."

    Long, editor and publisher of East Texas Media, and Harrist, editor of The Citizens Journal, met and discussed the case and agreed that jameson's idea of devoting a website to the Butts murder case would be a worthwhile project and could lead to new developments.

    Both journalists talked with jameson and were assured that the website would be open to all who wished to participate and would not be a public forum to villify the main suspect arrested shortly after the triple murder.

    "When I first started following the JonBenét Ramsey case, I was horrified at how quickly they turned on her family and the lynch-mob mentality of the sites ont he internet about the case," jameson said.

    Jameson became "addicted" to the case and refused to give in to that mentality and held her ground despite being often maligned for her stance. She would spend as much as 20 hours a day reading about the Ramsey case.

    "I am extremely and painfully shy," said the soft-spoken jameson in a telephone interview with the Journal. "My husband didn't really take my "hobby" very seriously until one day when I received a FAX at his office of the Ramsey autopsy before it had been released publicly. He rushed home with it and from that day forward knew I was very serious about what I was doing."

    So prolific was jameson's writing and her knowledge of the Ramsey case that a Vassar literature professor in June of 1997 - believing she was John Andrew (JonBenét's brother) posting on the internet under the name of jameson wrote the Ramseys and told them he could identify the killer.

    "I know you are innocent - KNOW it - absolutely and unequivocally," Prof. Don Foster wrote to Patsy Ramsey, the mother of the victim. "I would stake my professional reputation on it."

    That reputation by Foster had come through his involvement in other works such as the discovery that Shakespeare was the author of a centuries old manuscript, being hired by the FBI to prove ted Kaczynski wrote the Unibomber manifesto and that author Joe Klein was the anonymous writer of "Primary Colors."

    Foster analyzes not the handwriting, but the text, the content and syntax of materials - particularly the use of language, grammar, source material, borrowings, political and reigious opinions and anything that might enter into making a piece of writing distinctively one person's or another's - from punctuation to spelling and so on.

    Jameson called Foster at his home in Poughkeepsie, NY, on June 25, 1997. They talked for 49 minutes and Foster was obviously shocked to hear jameson's soft, obviously female voice, she said.

    "Foster refused to give up his theory," jameson said. ""Instead, he decidedthat jameson was still John Andrew Ramsey and he had been talking to the female relative who had been harboring the killer."

    Later, Foster would obviously realize his mistake - although he has never publicly acknowledged it - and would claim that it was indeed Patsy Ramsey who had written the ransom note left at the scene of her daughter's murder.

    It was a situation that would eventually force jameson out of her seclusion and into an appearance on CBS' " 48 Hours" television news magazine.

    "It took me 10 days to finally get up the courage to go on camera after CBS had flown me to Boulder," jameson recalls.

    A website started by jameson on another Colorado case eventually brought forward evidence that helped clear a suspect in that case, she said.

    Of the Butts case, jameson says, "I don't have a dog in this. I don't want this website to be used to lynch anybody. It will be an open forum and my interest is in making a difference."

    Jameson said she has talked to Atlanta Chief of Police Mike Dupree and Cass County Criminal District Attorney Randal Lee and informed them of the venture and received E-mail addresses which will allow her to communicate with them.

    For those who wish to send tips, they may do so at Buttsinfo@aol.com , jameson said.

    "If anonymity is mandatory, I will work with you to make it happen." jameson said. "I just want to make sure no one pretends to be someone they aren't - that no one borrows someone else's identity to post."

    "I encourage all interested parties to step up and be heard - the forum is moderated, will focus on the case and will not be filled with garbage - but anyone and everyone is encouraged to participate."

    Long and Harrist join jameson in that effort.

    "I have found that by doing this that we open up this case to the scrutiny of people all over the country who have expertise in forensics, criminal investigation and legal expertise - not to mention to someone out there who DOES have information in this case and who has not come forward with it," Harrist said.

    "Someone knows who did it and any discussion - even 10 years later - might finally bring out the truth," Long said.

    The website can be accessed at www.jameson245.com or at www.webbsleuths.com.

    For more documents go to http://butts_info.tripod.com/buttsfamily/
     
  17. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Thanks

    I have a memory stirring about this. I think I didn't remember it because it was in relation to the Butts case which I haven't followed.

    In the main, I don't have a lot of time for journalists. In my experience, they get too many basic facts incorrect at which point I just switch off to the rest.
     
  18. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    It was sort of strange, RR. Up until those child porn charges, she always seemed to make light of any of his grumblings. Afterwards, she dropped him like a hot potato.

    "I think there are one or two potential opportunities for her to make a LOT of money. Whether she realises that is another matter."

    You may very well be right about this Jayelles, but I agree with WY: "She had little credibility before she did that. She has none, now."

    So no one knows who sent her the JBR tapes? And didn't she say she didn't know who did it? She just sort of took the dope and sold it?
     
  19. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Well.....

    Who else can we think of - that we know for a fact - had possession of child porn?

    Anybody?

    RR
     
  20. JC

    JC Superior Cool Member

    Harrist quotes Susan Bennett aka jameson: "I am extremely and painfully shy," said the soft-spoken jameson in a telephone interview with the Journal. "My husband didn't really take my "hobby" very seriously until one day when I received a FAX at his office of the Ramsey autopsy before it had been released publicly. He rushed home with it and from that day forward knew I was very serious about what I was doing."

    I've no idea when the autopsy from JBR was released, but who faxed it to jameson and why did she get it first?
     
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