John Ramsey's '98 Interview...Things That Were "Strange" or "Out Of Place"

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by AMES, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. heymom

    heymom Member

    I have never seen

    Hunter

    for a girl. Please don't name her Hunter!!! Or Carter, for that matter.

    :rs:
     
  2. Greenleaf

    Greenleaf FFJ Senior Member

    Ames

    What about: "Little Miss Greenleafer?"

    "Cher" could be her middle name. LOL.
     
  3. icedtea4me

    icedtea4me Member

    Ames,

    Your search for a girl's name that ends with an R ends here. I say you put a black patch over her eye, a parrot on her shoulder, and name her "Aaarrr", like a pirate- :pirate:

    :curtsey:


    -Tea
     
  4. Elle

    Elle Member

    You are such a little bright clever clogs, Zotto. :) Move to the top of the class.:sunny:
     
  5. heymom

    heymom Member


    :floor: :rolling:
     
  6. AMES

    AMES Member

    LOL...I like that...that will be her MIDDLE name!!
     
  7. AMES

    AMES Member

    Little Miss Greenleafer Cher.....has a nice ring to it....LOL
     
  8. AMES

    AMES Member

    Great idea...I had never thought of that before. Thanks...
     
  9. tylin

    tylin Banned

    Ames,
    Wonderful news about your new addition to your family. I think you should go with Greenie's suggestion:

    CHER GREENLEAFER
    BAHAAAAA Perfect. :heart: :winko:
     
  10. AMES

    AMES Member


    LOL...yeah, I thought so too. I will have to give it some serious thought, and run it by my hubby. I am SURE that he will just LOVE IT. Hey, maybe I will just name her that, without telling the hubby....that's how SURE that I am that he would love it. :winko:
     
  11. AMES

    AMES Member

    7 MIKE KANE: I'm not really clear (INAUDIBLE)
    8 you said that they were tied tight. But were her
    9 hands tied closely together or were they wide
    10 apart?
    11 JOHN RAMSEY: No, it was like that.
    12 MIKE KANE: There were crossed like that.
    13 JOHN RAMSEY: I remember, yeah, her hands
    14 were close together.


    Correct me if I am wrong here..but, I though that the ME said that there was a space of cord, like 15 inches, or something like that....separating the wrists...and if you look at the pictures of her hands, you can see where the rope had been cut..and there is ALOT of space between the wrists. John here, says that her hands were tied crossed.


    "EXTERNAL EXAM: The decedent is clothed in a long sleeved white knit
    collarless shirt, the mid anterior chest area of which contains an
    embroidered silver star decorated with silver sequins. Tied loosely
    around the right wrist, overlying the sleeve of the shirt is a white
    cord. At the knot there is one tail end which measures 5.5 inches in
    length with a frayed end. The other tail of the knot measures 15.5
    inches in length and ends in a double loop knot. This end of the cord
    is also frayed. There are no defects noted in the shirt but the upper
    anterior right sleeve contains a dried brown-tan stain measuring
    2.5x1.5 inches, consistent with mucous from the nose or mouth. There
    are long white underwear with an elastic waist band containing a red
    and blue stripe. The long underwear are urine stained anteriorly over
    the crotch area and anterior legs. No defects are identified. Beneath
    the long underwear are white panties with printed rose buds and the
    words "Wednesday" on the elastic waist band. The underwear is urine
    stained and in the inner aspect of the crotch are several red areas
    of staining measuring up to 0.5 inch maximum dimension."


    http://www.acandyrose.com/garrote5.jpg

    This is a picture of the wrist ligature....(even though its labeled garrote)....(note the double loop at one end...just as the autopsy report says)....

    And this would be the picture of the garrote that was around her neck....notice the hair caught in it....

    http://www.acandyrose.com/garrote4.jpg


    Looking at the picture of the wrist ligature, I have no clue how John could say that her wrists were crossed, when he found her...there is way too much cord between the loops.
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    Last edited: Jun 18, 2007
  12. AMES

    AMES Member

    More "unusual" things....The Door Split.

    I am back to picking apart John's interview....I had taken a break from it...but, decided that it needs to be finished.

    1 LOU SMIT: Okay, we will continue
    2 looking. That's the same door, at 203 and 204?
    3 JOHN RAMSEY: See, there is the
    4 split. I remember -- I say I don't remember it
    5 chipped out like that but, because I remember I
    6 put the split back and I think I put a nail in
    7 it or a screw, a nail, to hold it in.
    That's
    8 the knob.
     
  13. AMES

    AMES Member

    JB's Bedroom

    21 JOHN RAMSEY: The tie on 121.
    22 LOU SMIT: Is hanging over the
    23 edge --
    24 JOHN RAMSEY: Is hanging over the
    25 edge of the bed, and is disheveled.
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    1 LOU SMIT: Okay.
     
  14. AMES

    AMES Member

    PATSY'S sweater???

    2 LOU SMIT: John, I would like you
    3 to look closely at photographs 123 -- 122, 123,
    4 124 and 125, and those are mainly that area of
    5 JonBenet and see if you see anything there that
    6 looks out of place or is different or anything
    7 that rings a bell with you.
    8 (Handing next sheet of
    9 photographs).
    10 LOU SMIT: For instance, what is
    11 this multicolored --
    12 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, I think it's a
    13 sweater of Patsy's, but --

    14 VOICE: Is that on JonBenet's bed?
    15 LOU SMIT: Is that a sweater that
    16 Patsy normally --
    17 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, it looks kind
    18 of like one of the sweaters, but she could tell
    19 for sure, I would say for sure, obviously.
    20 That's what struck me as one of hers. I am
    21 pretty sure that's Patsy's sweater.


    MEN!! Patsy said that it was JB's sweater. (The one found lying on JB's bed).
     
  15. AMES

    AMES Member

    Mountain Bike Tire??

    11 LOU SMIT: Now we are going to go
    12 kind of into later on when the photographs were
    13 taken later on the next day. And that
    14 photograph 204, what is that a photograph of?
    15 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that's the
    16 same screen door going out on to the patio.
    17 LOU SMIT: That's the south door?
    18 JOHN RAMSEY: Right.
    19 LOU SMIT: Again that's the damage?
    20 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. I think that
    21 was -- that was there. Well, the door was
    22 locked at least in the picture, the inside door,
    23 but it seems to me I remember it was split,
    24 but --
    25 LOU SMIT: Okay. So that's damage
    0785
    1 to the door, that's the south door, it could
    2 have been --
    3 JOHN RAMSEY: It was split at
    4 least, there was some damage, yes. There was
    5 bicycle tread tires, that's what they look like,
    6 mountain bike tire.

    7 LOU SMIT: I am going to interrupt
    8 your train of thought just a little bit. Do you
    9 know a Carl and Frances Tuney (phonetic)?

    What does John mean when he says mountain bike tire...is that what damaged the door? Why did Smit change the subject here, and start asking questions about Carl and Frances Tuney? What about the mountain bike tire...what significance does that have??
     
  16. AMES

    AMES Member

    TWO pried up windows....

    11 LOU SMIT: I know these are all
    12 close-up photographs of the same thing, so you
    13 can look at that.?
    14 JOHN RAMSEY: Okay. If that's the
    15 kitchen window --

    16 LOU SMIT: Which one?
    17 JOHN RAMSEY: 431, 23, 33 it's
    18 hard to say. The kitchen window had a crack in
    19 it like that.
    20 LOU SMIT: And where was that
    21 kitchen window located, John?
    22 JOHN RAMSEY: Right here
    23 (indicating).
    24 LOU SMIT: Right above the --
    25 JOHN RAMSEY: Above the
    0787
    1 (INAUDIBLE). Probably is what that is. That's
    2 a little peculiar, the way that's pried up like
    3 that
    .

    4 LOU SMIT: That's in photograph
    5 number --
    6 JOHN RAMSEY: 437.
    7 LOU SMIT: Which window is that?
    8 JOHN RAMSEY: That's the window in
    9 the study. Center window of the study, looks
    10 like the top. It's pried up, partially pried
    11 up.[/
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    12 LOU SMIT: Is that unusual?
    13 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, I don't
    14 remember that being that way at all. I don't --
    15 I don't recall that either
    .

    Seems the intruder couldn't figure out which window he wanted to climb through...the kitchen, the study, or the basement.
     
  17. AMES

    AMES Member

    19 JOHN RAMSEY: This is, let me make
    20 sure I have the right door, that is the door out
    21 of the solarium.

    22 LOU SMIT: Okay, that's on
    23 photograph --
    24 JOHN RAMSEY: 438, 440, 441. That
    25 door opened out, which was a bit peculiar.
    It's
    0788
    1 chipped around the dead bolt lock.

    Oh good grief...this is just getting ridiculous. Is there ANYTHING that doesn't look unusual or peculiar??
     
  18. AMES

    AMES Member

    The Saga of the Bicycles....

    12 LOU SMIT: Did you say he had a
    13 bicycle that Christmas?
    14 JOHN RAMSEY: I know we got -- I
    15 got a bicycle. I think that's what it was. I
    16 gave myself a bicycle.

    17 LOU SMIT: That Christmas?
    18 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, Patsy got a
    19 bicycle, I got a bicycle, JonBenet got a
    20 bicycle. Burke already had one, I am pretty
    21 sure. I don't know what it is, I guess
    22 (INAUDIBLE).



    Hmmmm....did I get a bicycle, or not. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah...I got a bicycle, I THINK that's what it was.

    Poor Burke, everyone got a bicycle, because John is "pretty sure" that he already had one. HUH? So, he just went out and bought a bunch of bikes for the WHOLE family, and didn't even check with Burke to see if he already had one, or not? Gee, John....what if Burke DIDN'T already have one? What then? Poor kid.....his own dad just "assumes" that he already has a bicycle. If I were Burke, I would feel cheated. :rolleyes: This is how John obviously felt about Burke.... :rs:

    John got a little flustered here, didn't he. He seems confused, like he is on crack.
     
  19. AMES

    AMES Member

    JB's Room...the tiebacks for the drapes...

    23 JOHN RAMSEY: Now in photo 4, that
    24 little tieback for the drapes have to be --
    25 (INAUDIBLE) I can't tell, see what it does
    0771
    1 compared to the other side. It looks untied. I
    2 am sure if it was untied, Patsy would have tied
    3 it back up.
    I don't know what this ink spot is
    4 on floor. In the carpet. Do you remember
    5 seeing that before?



    Oh yeah....sure John...Patsy was SUCH a fantastic housekeeper, and she wanted everything to be neat and tidy.

    Ink spot in the carpet....maybe the intruder accidently got some there, when he was trying to draw that heart on JB's hand. :poke:
     
  20. AMES

    AMES Member

    JB's Trophies...

    25 JOHN RAMSEY: I have never seen
    0772
    1 that. Some of these trophies kind of
    2 (INAUDIBLE).
    3 LOU SMIT: That's on photograph 7?
    4 JOHN RAMSEY: 7. In fact, there
    5 is one in there laying down next to it on the
    6 floor looks a little unusual
    . I think she kept
    7 better care of those than that.

    8 I don't know, this doesn't like as
    9 complete as they normally look. (INAUDIBLE).
    10 The trophy.
     
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