Michael Tracey - fingered false suspects in the past.

ROFL. Mame asks:-

Margoo responds:-

Nasty, nasty, nasty. This is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Mame also needs to use her little grey cells. Does she really think that if we had amended/edited/fabricated the transcript that Michael Tracey wouldn't have come after us for that?????

I dare Mame to ask OEJ where she got her transcript from. Answer below.






My transcript was the source for OEJ's copy. I personally transcribed the documentary and checked and double checked it for accuracy. I then posted each page of the transcript as a GRAPHIC file - which we know is one way of protecting it from being amended/edited/fabricated. OEJ retyped my transcript - i.e. the EDITABLE/AMENDABLE/FABRICATABLE version of the transcript was created by the RST!!

http://www.webbsleuths.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=312&forum=DCForumID37



BTW - despite what jameson says in this thread, I did not change any urls so that they wouldn't work. I spent hours transcribing the documentary and made it available to all - just not in a format that they could easily edit/amend/fabricate

 

Interesting post

by jameson (SX = Mr X = Tracey's *last* prime suspect)

http://www.webbsleuths.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=261&forum=DCForumID37#51

 

I guess mame hasn't embarrassed herself enough with her gross exaggerations and outright lies about the Ramsey case. She was one of the most despised posters on the forums, only recently coming back out of her snake hole, it seems for the sole purpose of telling more falsehoods about Tricia and FFJ. I notice she has been throwinig out more of her threats against FFJ. As usual, we're all shaking in our boots. Guess she thinks everything she says is okay, but if anyone gives it back to her, it's libel. After what she and her buddies did to FW and his family, all I can say is skunks smell their own stink, first, and she's stinking real bad.

Go back in your hole, mame. You're an abomination to this case.

 

Well I guess Mame and I missed each other as I only started following the case in 2000. However, it seems to me that she's someone whose idea of discussion is to hurl insults and name-call rather than to debate intelligently. My reaction to that is .....ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz (to quote a New York Lawyer )

 

Correct.

 

I wasn't around when Mame was in her heyday!

I will offer my sympathies to those who were and celebrate that I was not.

 

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=224

All about the Suma/Krebs mystery woman fraud.

 

They are a psychiatrist's wet dream

:abnormal:

 

Oh, Barbara, you haven't seen anything, yet.

I suppose I could dig out the old mame and morgan and whomever posts, but I don't want to dirty up this place with their slanderous crapola.

 

Now you're scaring me

Who was Morgan? I know I've heard the name, but have no idea what he/she is notorious for; only that Morgan is not very well liked by most

 

Thank you for posting that. Now THAT was an interesting read. IMO,
that woman and Susan Bennet should be ashamed of themselves....and sued.

 

Mary Suma lives in Colorado. That is pretty much her foundation for "reporting" for the roots of GRASS......

There is always a METHod to her madness.......or maybe it's just the STD's left all over her house when she took in Mystery Woman. That was what, three or four SCAMS ago by now?! LOL - these freaks have practiced this John Mark Krap for years right before our eyes, I swear to Sparky, he is all of the Scams rolled into one.

The history is out there for all to see as far as Mary Suma is concerned. Now, I reckon it's time once again for me to wait for the ACLU, numerous outraged reporters, and the FBI to contact me because IBitched about ABitch.

 

You know, Tricia, this is a good idea. They keep throwing your name around, so let's give them the respect they deserve. We will use their real names from now on.

 

Boyles is giving FFJ and Tony some major air time this morning!

 

It's not a coincidence that all the nasty posts on Susan Bennet's (aka Jameson) forum regarding the posters here eating crow when Karr's DNA results came in have disappeared. Just another typical adventure in swampland. No need to archive for posterity. Not to worry though - I'm sure they have been preserved by ACandyRose and others interested in making sure case history is well documented. No :del: here. :floor:

 

Mr. Gigax was on The Peter Boyles Show this morning - this needs to be out top priority right now! He is considering a lawsuit against Tracey!

 

Prof's role in JonBenet case debated By DAN ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
Thu Aug 31, 3:54 AM ET


Investigators say the journalism professor who tipped them off about John Mark Karr's claim to be JonBenet Ramsey's killer "did us a great service," but journalism educators question whether he crossed the ethical line that keeps news reporters independent of the government.

The key, educators said this week, is whether University of Colorado professor Michael Tracey — who has produced three documentaries on the Ramsey case and is working on a book — considered himself a journalist or an academic when he gathered Karr's gruesome confessions for authorities.

As a journalist, the educators said, Tracey could be expected to avoid close collaboration with investigators to maintain his independence, except in exceptional circumstances. As an academic, even an academic in the field of journalism, he would have more leeway to work with investigators, they said.

"To the extent he is acting as a journalist, he should abide by the ethical norms guiding that profession," said Erik Ugland, an assistant professor at Marquette University and head of the Media Ethics Division for the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication.

"On the other hand, if he is simply a college professor who's been sort of swept up into this maelstrom, then there's no reason he can't cooperate with police if his conscience compels him to do so," Ugland said.

For Tracey, the answer is simple: "I'm an academic, I'm a scholar. I'm not a journalist," he told The Associated Press Wednesday.

"I was functioning as a member of the community and a father," he said. "That was my motivation, that it would have been wrong for me not to go to the authorities."

Tracey's four-year correspondence with Karr, by e-mail and telephone, is what led Boulder County district attorney's investigators to track Karr to Thailand, bring him back to Boulder and arrest him on a murder warrant in the 1996 slaying. The case disintegrated when DNA tests showed Karr could not be the killer.

After the case collapsed, District Attorney Mary Lacy defended the decision to arrest Karr and praised Tracey for his help. At a news conference, she called him "a journalist who could have gone public with this at any time" but instead chose to work with investigators.

"Bottom line is, he did a great service," she said.

Deputy District Attorney Peter Maguire said Tracey had been in effect a confidential informant. "He was very valuable to us working in an undercover capacity," he said.

Bob Steele, the Nelson Poynter scholar for journalism values at the Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Fla., said that pointed up what he called a troubling aspect of the case: Was Tracey cooperating with police and working as a journalist at the same time?

"Journalists operate under this principal of independence," he said. "We scrutinize the police and the prosecution and the methods of the investigation. If we are collaborating, then our ability — real or perceived — to be a watchdog is compromised."

Steele stressed he was not passing judgment on Tracey because he did not know all the details.

Steele said that in rare cases, it might be appropriate even for a working journalist to cooperate with police.

"Let's say that we are contacted by the suspect in a murder, and this suspect is on the loose and there's danger to the public. It may be appropriate to alert law enforcement to the contact we've had with that suspect in the murder," he said.

Paul Voakes, dean of the University of Colorado journalism school where Tracey teaches, said he supports Tracey.

"What Michael did was take the civic duty path," Voakes said.

Tracey said he has no doubts he did the right thing, especially after Karr told him he was attracted to young girls. Lacy said Thai and other authorities arrested Karr after he started paying attention to a 5-year-old schoolgirl in Bangkok.

"I had an ethical, a moral responsibility to try and get this guy investigated. What am I supposed to do when he starts talking about little girls and what he wants to do to them?" he said.

"My conscience is really quite clear."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831...sey_professor_1

 

From the article: "Tracey said he has no doubts he did the right thing, especially after Karr told him he was attracted to young girls"

I can't stomach reading the emails but surely he told Tracey this prior to April when he turned it over to the DA? I seriously dobut that Tracey had childrens' interest at heart, otherwise he wouldn't have left this go on for 4 years, knowing that Karr was in contact with children.