Michael Tracey.

Perhaps the bike rider in the snow.

23 LOU SMIT: (Handing next sheet of
24 photographs).
25 JOHN RAMSEY:
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1 BRYAN MORGAN: If I understand it,
2 all of these were taken in the early stages of
3 the kidnapping scenes, which means early in the
4 morning.
5 LOU SMIT: Yes.
6 JOHN RAMSEY: These tracks in the
7 snow here, might have been bicycle tracks.
8 LOU SMIT: That's in photograph
9 101?10 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. It wasn't
11 unusual for him to ride through the yard.
12 LOU SMIT: Did you say he had a
13 bicycle that Christmas?
14 JOHN RAMSEY: I know we got -- I
15 got a bicycle. I think that's what it was. I
16 gave myself a bicycle.
17 LOU SMIT: That Christmas?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, Patsy got a
19 bicycle, I got a bicycle, JonBenet got a
20 bicycle. Burke already had one, I am pretty
21 sure. I don't know what it is, I guess
22 (INAUDIBLE).

11 LOU SMIT: Now we are going to go
12 kind of into later on when the photographs were
13 taken later on the next day. And that
14 photograph 204, what is that a photograph of?
15 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that's the
16 same screen door going out on to the patio.
17 LOU SMIT: That's the south door?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Right.
19 LOU SMIT: Again that's the damage?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. I think that
21 was -- that was there. Well, the door was
22 locked at least in the picture, the inside door,
23 but it seems to me I remember it was split,
24 but --
25 LOU SMIT: Okay. So that's damage
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1 to the door, that's the south door, it could
2 have been --
3 JOHN RAMSEY: It was split at
4 least, there was some damage, yes. There was
5 bicycle tread tires, that's what they look like,
6 mountain bike tire.

During my 1999 interview with Lou Smit ABK I asked him if he thought the "intruder" could be a juvenile? He responded: "Absolutely!"

I followed up by asking him if the intruder could be Doug Stine? He responed: "Doug Stine should be looked at very closely."

 

I'm with you, Wombat. People don't draw up arrest warrants unless they believe they have their man.

Two college student employees of the Hungry Toad told me that Tracey was a blowhard, pompous jerk with delusions of granduer--if these kids could see through him, why couldn't Lacy?

 

I really don't care what Lou Smit has to say--you cannot call him a loon and simultaneously quote him as being credible.

People have been playing this "we should look at him closely" game and it always seems to be somebody OTHER THAN the people who were in the house with the dead child.

Soooo--let's pretend for a minute and I'll ask this question:

If Lou Smit thinks Stine should be "looked at closely," why hasn't Lou Smit done exactly that? He's had ten years.

This is just another one of these "could it be?" or "Is it possible?" types of questions meant to raise questions, rather than answer them.

 

My guess is because de'LOUsional Smit is still hung up in his stupid stun gun fantasy. He probably asked Susan Stine if they owned one, and when she said "no" he ruled out their kid.

 

Well Lou Smit has been whining for a decade that the police haven't checked this one out and that one, while neglecting to say he himself should have been doing the checking if he's ever so convinced they might have killed that little girl. It's total chickenchit but typical of the clowns on the ramsey side.

 

bike tracks in the snow

It continues to amaze me that the IDIers NEVER post about the bike tracks in the snow. It is the ONLY information that points to someone other than the 3 in the house.

23 LOU SMIT: (Handing next sheet of
24 photographs).
25 JOHN RAMSEY:
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1 BRYAN MORGAN: If I understand it,
2 all of these were taken in the early stages of
3 the kidnapping scenes, which means early in the
4 morning.
5 LOU SMIT: Yes.
6 JOHN RAMSEY: These tracks in the
7 snow here, might have been bicycle tracks.
8 LOU SMIT: That's in photograph
9 101?10 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. It wasn't
11 unusual for him to ride through the yard.
12 LOU SMIT: Did you say he had a
13 bicycle that Christmas?
14 JOHN RAMSEY: I know we got -- I
15 got a bicycle. I think that's what it was. I
16 gave myself a bicycle.
17 LOU SMIT: That Christmas?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, Patsy got a
19 bicycle, I got a bicycle, JonBenet got a
20 bicycle. Burke already had one, I am pretty
21 sure. I don't know what it is, I guess
22 (INAUDIBLE).

11 LOU SMIT: Now we are going to go
12 kind of into later on when the photographs were
13 taken later on the next day. And that
14 photograph 204, what is that a photograph of?
15 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that's the
16 same screen door going out on to the patio.
17 LOU SMIT: That's the south door?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Right.
19 LOU SMIT: Again that's the damage?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. I think that
21 was -- that was there. Well, the door was
22 locked at least in the picture, the inside door,
23 but it seems to me I remember it was split,
24 but --
25 LOU SMIT: Okay. So that's damage
0785
1 to the door, that's the south door, it could
2 have been --
3 JOHN RAMSEY: It was split at
4 least, there was some damage, yes. There was
5 bicycle tread tires, that's what they look like,
6 mountain bike tire.

 

Well why assume the bike tracks weren't there for a long time? Why assume they had anything to do with the crime? And from what I understood, nobody was even sure they were bike tracks. Everybody in that family had bikes

 

So JonBenét's bike tracks had to be there somewhere at the front of the house.
She asked her Dad if he would help her to go round the block, but they were due at the White's party, so there wasn't enough time for that, but she was on it herself outside the house, Bob.

 

Exactly. They all believed it and thought it came with a bonus for everybody. Lacy was going to be a hero, Tracey was going to be rich, Smit was going to have his tarnished reputation restored, and the Ramseys were going to be off the hook. What a deal.

 

Or maybe those bicycle tracks were made by Ramsey during a little side trip he took that night to dispose of evidence.

But, I must ask this - what snow? Don't the RST claim there were no footprints because there was no snow? Where do the tire tracks in the snow come from, then?

 

Will do...I LOVE the tag-line and the photo is GREAT!!

None of the other articles are up yet either.

Heymom

 

It's beyond pure stupidity. Lacy didn't even do the most BASIC investigation of Karr's claims. Instead of checking airport records, transactional records, phone records, family interviews, etc., Lacy decided to believe Karr's account of what happened even though it was sketchy at best, and completely impossible at worst. Even with a Lear Jet, it was impossible for Karr's timeline to hold up. Lacy consulted John Ramsey for advice about Karr instead of the FBI. That tells you everything you need to know about Lacy's investigative skill.

Mary Lacy: "So, Michael, do you think Karr's our guy?"

Michael Tracey: "Yes, definitely. I've coached him for four years now, and I've almost got his JBR story to match Lou's scenario. It's close enough for me. I've never let a few facts get in the way of a good story!"

Mary Lacy:"So, Lou, do you think Karr's our guy?"

Lou Smit: Yup, because that Karr has shoes. He is standing in the victim's shoes. No, I'm standing in the victims shoes. Actually, I'm standing on my own shoes. I'm standing on my head. I don't know which end is up. But I have a stun gun, and I'm not afraid to use it!"

Mary Lacy: "So, John, do you think Karr's our guy?"

John Ramsey: (flicking his tongue) "Yes, absolutely ... anyone but us. I said the world killed JonBenet, and I meant it. Everyone is a suspect but us. And you have to admit that for the last ten years, Patsy and I have done our part to throw innocent people under the bus. Now it's your turn, Mary."

 

From last week's Westword

Again
As one media squall weakens, another strikes.
By Michael Roberts
Article Published Oct 5, 2006


The Ramsey case spawned a frenzy after the arrest of false confessor John Mark Karr, while Columbine memories amplified curiosity about Platte Canyon to deafening levels. And if the waning of interest in the first matter just prior to the explosion of the second was a blessing for overwhelmed area residents, the ways in which both are playing out reveal plenty about the press's peripatetic attention span.

Boulder officials' decision not to charge Karr in JonBenét's death ended the debate about whether he was a perp or a twerp, but loads of other questions remain, most having to do with the behavior of Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy and her staff. Predictably, networks and cable channels didn't want to expend additional resources to find answers, particularly given the amount of dough they'd already wasted. So since staging a few legal-expert shout-fests about whether or not Lacy is an idiot, they've covered Karr's journey through the California legal system as spartanly as possible.

Too bad the local media has followed suit. A post-mortem of Boulder's actions regarding Karr is long overdue and might yield many intriguing insights. Lacy's constituents should know, for example, if she could have better protected a young girl in Thailand who fascinated Karr by sharing information with Thai authorities rather than dragging him back to the United States, where he may soon get the chance to menace his fellow Americans. Porn charges against him in Sonoma County could be dismissed because authorities there have lost his computer, which contained much of the evidence against him. And even if he's convicted of something, he's apt to get off with time served and/or probation.

These days, though, area TV affiliates seldom conduct time-intensive investigations that don't involve hidden cameras, prurient or ripoff-oriented topics, or shots of sources speaking in shadow. That left an opening for KHOW talk-show yakkers Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman, who initially went after Lacy hard -- but they've since moved on to other matters. As for the Denver Post, the paper covered the Karr hoopla grudgingly and dumped out of it at the first opportunity; odds that the broadsheet will take Karr for another ride are extremely slender. The Rocky, meanwhile, was so committed to the Karr-did-it campaign, as evidenced by its repeated lionization of Lacy's main source, CU journalism professor Michael Tracey, that exploring the mistakes made in Boulder would make the tabloid look moronic by association.

 

Well said, Wombat! "Mary Lacy, Empathy Crusader"!

MARY LACY (at the second press conference): "Okay, little ones. Now, I want your listening ears on, and your eyes on me. Teacher is going to tell you a story before we drink the Kool-Aid. And when I finish, let's all join hands and sing Kum-ba-yah. Now, now ... let's not point fingers, that's not nice. Can't you all just have some sympathy for the Ramseys whose hopes have been DASHED! Can you imagine how awful it is to know the latest under-the-bus victim won't STAY THERE!!!"

 

I vote this as the POST OF THE DAY!!! Bwahhahahahahaha! :rolling: :rolling: :rotfl: :rotfl: :coffeeup: :laughup: :laughup:

 

Yes, "One, Two, Three, Eyes on ME!" says Mary Lacy. Ha ha haha Cherokee you are in fine form today!!! Making me laugh so hard I am snorting.

Heymom :wave:

 

My mother's favorite saying was:

"Arrogance always has a solid foundation in ignorance."

Perhaps what we are all observing is the arrogance of the DA. After all:

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Hunter and Keenan/Lacy have gotten away with this BS for so long that they may have believed they could get away with making Karr the perp.

The question that needs to answered is WHY?

 

Well, THIS page rocks!

http://www.westword.com/Issues/current/jonbenet/index.html

And my favorite line from it:

hahaha Yeah, wonder why Karr WROTE that crap? This might have a TEENSY bit to do with it....

Too bad Tracey never spent any time READING THE RAMSEY VERSION IN LE INTERVIEWS AND DEPOS. Oh, well, he wasn't interested in knowing THE TRUTH, only in CREATING AN INTRUDER.

 

Someone was asking earlier for proof of Lacy's stupidity. Well here it is from this article:

The Boulder district attorney shared in that wishfulness. Sharply questioned by reporters about whether there was any real evidence to justify Karr's arrest other than his confessions to Tracey, Mary Lacy insisted that Karr's story appeared to be highly credible. He'd told Tracey all sorts of wild tales, true, but some of them, like his mother trying to set him ablaze when he was a child, turned out to be true. "I'm not embarrassed," she said. "I feel bad for a community that questions what we did."


WTF does his mother supposedly setting him on fire have to do with his "credibility" on the Jonbenet case? please explain this to me, folks. Lacy is AN IDIOT.