My crackpot review of JBR Police Files

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by BobC, Jan 28, 2003.

  1. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    VERY IMPORTANT pg 47

    More evidence that JBR was getting openly defiant--not wanting to be Patsy's little dress-up doll anymore.

    When asked to tell the cops what Patsy dressed JBR in for bed, Patsy says she just left the white shirt on and put some pajama bottoms on her--and then she volunteers some very interesting info.

    Patsy says JBR was "miffed" Because Patsy wanted her to wear a black and red outfit to the Whites which matched Patsy's outfit. Patsy says JBR "didn't want to wear the red shirt just because I was wearing it."

    hmmmm. Very interesting little glimpse into the psychology of what was happening between Pats and JBR. JBR was trying to assert her own personality and Patsy wasn't too thrilled.
     
  2. Voyager

    Voyager Active Member

    Bob C....

    You ask several important questions here...what is cracked crab?....It is supposed to be crab served still in the shell which has been cracked open for easy removal of the crab meat and for an attractive presentation and of course to indicate that it is still very fresh....it is a term that is often abused though, just as you said to give snob appeal to the menu...

    Now I think that the reason that Patsy mentions the cracked crab specifically, when she cannot remember anything else about what was served at the White's dinner, even whether or not it was a buffet, is that she is trying to indicate that the contents found in JonBenet's digestive system after death, may have been fresh crab rather than the reported pineapple....

    Gawd! Leave it to Patsy to imagine that those food textures would be similiar and therefore indistiguishable to sophisticated forensics....the woman is just too much! Notice how she says that Pricilla had served the crab because she knew it was a favorite of JonBenet's? Imagine this "bright spot" in Patsy's memory is purely coincidental! Yea, right! Very selective memory this woman has....

    You have to have admiration for these detectives....I would find myself greatly frustrated and wanting to slap Patsy around given her stammering, unfinished sentences, and lack of memory on almost all points....all used to disquise her lack of cooperation....

    Aaarrrgghhhh!
    Voyager
     
  3. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Important! 48

    Patsy feels inclined to reveal that she purchased the sequined shirt for JBR at the Gap.

    Patsy says she left the sequined shirt on JBR when she was put to bed.

    Now here's a huge red flag. The Ramseys didn't take JBR to restroom before putting her to bed. The cops cleverly make Patsy repeat several times that JBR went straight to bed with no bathroom trip. Later in the interrogations Patsy reveals that JBR ALWAYS was made to go to the bathroom before bed--and sometimes they'd even wake her half-way through the night to make her go if the bed-wetting was occuring more often than usual.

    So this kid was at a party, eating and drinking lots--I couldn't think of a better night to make sure she had an empty bladder.

    But Patsy says she just went straight to bed. It is at this point exactly where truth begins to morph into fiction.
     
  4. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Yeah Voyager Patsy has very selective amnesia.

    The cops specifically ask Patsy if JBR ever woke during this process of putting the PJ bottoms on and Patsy is quite clear. "No."

    JR and Burke stay up to put some toy together. Well, maybe. Patsy's amnesia is flaring up again--she can't quite remember for sure. From here on out you can be gauranteed that the phrase "I dont remember" will be peppered quite liberally by Miss Patsy.

    Patsy can remember JR and Burke putting together a toy but doesn't remember where they put it together.

    Note to Patsy from JR: The less details you "recall" the less chance you have of being caught lying.

    PS: Don't phuck up.
     
  5. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    As JR is playing with Burke, Patsy is running around trying to get last minute things together. I think it's important to note here that it seems Patsy had the full burden of getting everything together for the trip sans la help from her husband.

    The pressure's building.
     
  6. Vic

    Vic Active Member

    yep

    They absoultely cannot afford to have Jon Benet awake, even for one minute that night. She was asleep, or "zonked" and that's their story and they're stickin' to it...

    I've got to get this book so I can read along!!

    Thanks for your report, BobC. Looking forward to more!
     
  7. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    The cops once again slyly ask if JBR ever woke up and Patsy says no. It's clear that the cops are trying to keep P off balance by asking this question out of the clear blue over and over especially when P is rambling about other things.

    They are trying to get her to slip IMO.

    Did JBR wake up earlier when they were delivering presents to the Stines? No.
     
  8. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Vic--to be honest I wouldn't bother getting the book unless you really have your heart set on it. Most of it is very redundant and dry--plus the National Enquirer has already printed the juiciest portions. At one point I just started highlighting the phrase "I don't remember" just because it was getting a bit ridiculous.
     
  9. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    pg 50

    Okay Patsy doesn't remember what time she put JBR even though she's already said five hundred times that they got home around ten and JBR went straight to bed.

    That makes her bedtime around ten, Pats. We can stop the over-acting anytime you're ready.

    So anyway Patsy DOES recall JR coming to bed. She of course doesn't recall what time, but says it was shortly after she turned in.

    Patsy says she "might have" read a book but just can't recall. Patsy does say she normally takes her make-up off before turning in, but not her jewelry.
     
  10. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Gotta go for a while, guys. Reality is rearing it's ugly head again.
     
  11. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    BobC

    I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your reviewing this book - there is a LOT that I missed!!! I do have post-it notes net to a few items, but I'll have to come next weekend for that!! I read all you guys during the week and print out most of it so I can read it later! I REALLY enjoy this site!! Keep up the GREAT work! especially you, BobC - !!
     
  12. AK

    AK Member

    Thanks, BobC

    My book finally came, but who needs to read it with this expert commentary?!

    Interesting that the cops kept nailing the bedwetting. It's not hard to see why they went down that path, especially with the overwhelming kid-kill stats that make potty problems the #1 trigger.

    The Stines weren't at the White party. The Whites have good taste, don'tchaknow? It always cracked me up that such dear pals to the Rambos would get a lousy basket for Xmas. Is there anything more impersonal? OK, the Louis Vuitton wallet Scott says he gave Laci...

    Interesting too that Patsy says she wears her jewelry to bed. Does that include her sex ring? Or is that a no-sex ring, in Patsy's case?

    RR, your catch of John not knowing Patsy's condition is germane to his character. He let Patsy fly by herself for NIH treatment, didn't know JB wet the bed, didn't read the autopsy report to know her injuries, doesn't know where the local porn shop is, quickly blames his best pals and employees for a crime he knows they didn't commit... Does he have any positive attributes? None that I've ever seen, except the photo of him with infant JB on his shoulder-pack, but then he had little to do with that shot's charm.

    Voyager, good info about the crab. 'Member when Jams kept insisting it was lemon, not pineapple, in JB's system? Probably something she and her handlers rehearsed together. Then the cops brought in an expert who confirmed it was indeed pineapple.

    Can you just project what will happen in trial? Will Patsy take the stand, thinking her powers of persuasion are so keen she can snow a courtroom? How will jurors react to her many lapses of memory over minutia on the most significant day of her life? Even if she doesn't take the stand to amend her police interviews, the tapes may do her in.

    I've been listening to the new Eminem CD, where he raps about his daughter endlessly. In one song he samples her saying, "I think my dad's gone craaazy!" and there's all the sweetness and fun of a 6-year-old's voice. You can charge Eminem with being foul-mouthed, of having wife, mother and legal troubles, and you'd be right. But he's a devoted pop with a strong sense of how to raise a child. And his baby is still very much alive.
     
  13. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Fedorax you wrote:

    "RR, your catch of John not knowing Patsy's condition is germane to his character. He let Patsy fly by herself for NIH treatment, didn't know JB wet the bed, didn't read the autopsy report to know her injuries, doesn't know where the local porn shop is, quickly blames his best pals and employees for a crime he knows they didn't commit"...

    "didn't read the autopsy report to know her injuries"...

    You all I want to share something to put into perspective the fact that John Ramsey did not read JonBenet's autopsy report.

    I am working with a woman now in her seventies. In 1991 her daughter was shot. Her daughter's violent boyfriend was in the house when it happened. The cops came and literally within minutes the patrol cops ruled it a suicide. This is really the Readers Digest version but this women knew this wasn't the case. All the evidence pointed to her daughter being shot by the boyfriend. This sweet little lady has gone over the autopsy report of her beloved daughter with a fine tooth comb. Same with the police report. What she found was shocking. Yet no one will listen to her. Why? She's poor. She can't hire experts. But that hasn't stopped her. I won't go into why she called me but I will do what I can to help her. I don't know what but after talking to her you can't help but want to take up her cause. She won't give up. She won't let the bastard get away with it. She is even turning to strangers to help.

    By the way not only does she know the autopsy inside and out. She has all the pictures. All the god awful horrible pictures. I just had them digitized in the hopes I can find someone willing to look at them that won't require one of my kidney's as payment.

    This is the sign of the true outrage a parent feels at the death of a child. You don't stop. You don't give up. You don't quit. You call. You write. You learn every detail backwards and forwards and you devote your last breath to finding your child's killer.

    One day I want John and Patsy Ramsey to read the story of this incredible woman I know. When they do I hope they feel like the sewer crap they are...

    Tricia
     
  14. Texan

    Texan FFJ Senior Member

    black jacket

    Patsy says that JonBenet was wearing the white top with the star on it and that she wanted to wear that because it was part of a set they bought at GAP and it included a black velvet jacket that she wore with it. So if Patsy had to take that jacket off of her, why didn't she wake up? No wonder the cops asked questions that insinuated a little girl like that might have had something slipped into her food at the whites to make her sleep so soundly.

    No mention is made of her having a coat on. Wasn't it cold that night?

    You are absolutely right Bobc - that they didn't make her get up and go to the bathroom that night is totally weird. Patsy says that the bed wetting was occasional and only if she didn't go to the bathroom before she went to bed. Hello! That omission guarenteed that she would wet the bed that night. They planned to wake up between 5:30 and 6:00 and leave home at 6:30 so they could be at the airport by 7:00. When would they have time to bathe a little girl that would surely wet the bed that night?

    What is up with the hair dying? She says the kids were in their playclothes on the 24th before they went to the Whites so they changed into nice clothes and then she says she may have dyed her hair. That would have been an odd time to do that. And she mentions it twice so you can be sure she did dye her hair that day, but what is weird is she makes it sound like she did it after she changed the kids' clothes.

    I think she had to be totally stressed out. She mentions that the kids wanted to go to Charlevoix but does say at first she didn't necessarily want to go. She's running around trying to wrap presents, pack for two trips, deliver gifts, dye her hair - stresses me out just to read about it. Didn't JonBenet have a pageant coming up after they got back?
     
  15. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Texan--if you notice in JR's second interrogation, he says that Patsy changed after the cancer battle. He said she wanted to take advantage of every minute she was here--wanting to do more and more. I think that's one of the few times he was honest . I think Patsy was in hyper-drive all the time and that one night it all came to a head.

    Fedora if you think what you know of JR is repulsive just wait until you read about him in his own words. I guarantee you'll find him easily ten times more nasty than you did before. There were times when I actually had to put the book down and take a shower. He is vicious and tries to finger every person who ever crossed his path. Patsy isn't even in the same realm with this asshat. OJ Simpson is a class act compared to this piece of filth.

    He is so vicious towards the Whites that I can't believe he didn't have a hand in the whole Krebs fraud.

    When I get to his second interrogation you'd better buckle your seatbelts.
     
  16. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    pg 51

    Patsy, who can't recall anything from the murder night, suddenly corrects the cops when they incorrectly say Paulette purchased JBR's necklace--she remembers that Pam bought it for her. Actually Patsy can recall who bought every single piece of jewelry JBR was wearing. Nedra bought the GOLD ring. Pam bought the necklace. Patsy bought the bracelet.

    But Patsy can't recall chit about the murder night to help cops find out "who did this."
     
  17. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Patsy can't recall if she heard Burke go to bed. She doesn't recall hearing any wierd noises. Patsy doesn't know if anyone put Burke to bed. Also the cops suggest they got home around nine, but Patsy says all she can remember was that it was "dark."

    Patsy is an absolute goldmine of information.
     
  18. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    The cops ask about what shirt JBR was wearing again. Of course now Patsy's memory is crystal clear--she left the white sequin shirt on JBR. which isn''t what she told cops the day of the murder but you know so what.

    Patsy changes JBR and JBR never awakens. Guys--those of you with children--can a kid sleep through all that?
     
  19. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Patsy left the door to JBR's room cracked open and went on to get more stuff ready for the trip the next morning. She thinks. Patsy got out of all her clothes, washed her make-up off and went to bed. How long before she actually went to sleep? Patsy startles the room by revealing she can't remember! I'm sure everyone's jaws hit the floor. Maybe a half hour, she volunteers, but quickly qualifies the answer with her mantra "I don't recall exactly." I think Patsy should be the Celebrity Spokeswoman for the Alzhiemer's Association.The poor thing's head is like a vast wasteland.
     
  20. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Could JR have gone back to JBR's room for any reason. With laser-like precision, Patsy replies that it would be unlikely, but you know, she doesn't remember. Patsy says she usually knows when JR gets out of bed at night. She's probably relieved.

    ST asks what the lock-up procedure for the house was that night. Can we guess Patsy's witty response?

    You guessed it!

    Patsy explains she gave out keys to the house to every person currently living. I'm surprised she didn't send them out bulk-rate in the mail! You know like those little laundry detergent samples you get every so often. "Just in case you're ever in Boulder, here's a key to my house. Love Patsy."

    ST asks if it was possible that the Barnhills gave back their key? Can you guess Patsy's response? My brain is growing numb.
     
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