Regarding jameson

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by RiverRat, Feb 6, 2004.

  1. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Discussing Relevance

    Elsewhere, poor Margoo (who addresses Lin Wood as "Oh exalted one" and apparently believes she is being stalked) doesn't see the relevance of any criticism of jameson's stance in the vanDAm case with rehgard to Ramsey. Poor Margoo and her double standards. The RSt happily discredit all Ramsey critics in any way they can. jameson has ongoing threads about Donald Foster and clearly believes that any fault she can find in the man has relevance to his credibility with regards to Ramsey. Similarly Wecht, Spitz, Thomas, Kane..... the Rst will cast aspersions against them all in their desperation to get people to believe that the opinions of these people are worthless because they have no credibility. Yet when it comes to tha many shortfallings of their leader, it is a case of

    The Ramseys must be thrilled to bits to have such delightful people represent them on the Internet.
     
  2. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

  3. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Aw Gee

    Margoo thinks my spelling errors are "revealing". LOL!

    I guess for want of anything more constructive to say, one can always criticise the typos and spelling errors. Still, it explains why Margoo seems unable to make many posts without an edit or two. Reminds me of another poster at jamesons - one who stopped posting a year or so ago (just before Margoo joined).

    I wonder what Margoo thinks of Lou SMit's grammar since she's so particular? Does his occasionally poor grammar make him less worthy as a detective in her eyes?
     
  4. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Bob, there was a documentary on about Ron Jeremy here a few years ago. He's done other stuff as well as porn hasn't he?

    I don't think the guy in jameson's porn photo and Ron Jeremy are alike in any way apart from the hair. I recall some of the discussions at the time and the guy in the picture had a long thin face and long thin arms. Jeremy is a wee pudding of a man isn't he?
     
  5. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    I figured that

    would get a rise out of jammy sue, but I don't really care. She is what she is, and she has done what she's done. She is a despicable person, entirely involved with herself. In psychological circles, it's called extreme narcissism/sociopathy. She cares not a whit for anyone else or anyone else's opinion. Everything is about jameson and what pleases her. No one else has a voice, everyone is beneath her, and she holds everyone else in contempt. She chooses to be outrageous, because being outrageous gets her the attention she craves so desperately. It doesn't matter if the attention is good or bad, as long as the attention is on her.

    She was abusive to Danielle's parents at the very least. She didn't give a damn that they asked that memorials in the form of angels or other trinkets hung on a tree not be sent to Danielle's dumping ground. She did it anyway. Who were the parents to tell HER what she could do. She threw a hissy fit when the memorials were removed from that dump. She was irate that she couldn't dictate what was going on there.

    She was furious that Danielle's parents refused to deal with her lunacy, and, like Jayelles stated, she went after them with a vengence. She did accuse Damon of sexually assaulting and perhaps killing Danielle - maybe not in those exact words, but her meanings were always clear. The venom dripped from her words, while she made excuses for that piece of dung who did take Danielle and murder her.

    jameson's made her own reputation on the forums - no one else did it for her. She has lied, schemed, done her best to obstruct justice, betrayed the Ramseys for $40,000, even though she denies it, bullchit, it was what it was. She pretended she was a male and set up a professor who should have known better, but, nonetheless, she said she was a male. If she says she didn't, she lies. She has acted with malice toward Arianna Pugh, a minor, and her parents. All this in the name of her obsession with the Ramseys who couldn't give a chit less about Susan Bennett and in fact are embarrassed by her, laughing behind her buns of steel.

    Without jameson, Susan Bennett is nothing.
     
  6. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Jayelles Ron Jeremy and Merv couldn't look any less alike. Jeremy is FAMOUS--he's kind of a trashy pop culture icon who is on Howard Stern all the time. In fact if you watch "Surreal Life" a new reality show starring Tammy faye Bakker, Erk Estrada and Vanilla Ice, Ron Jeremy stars with them.
     
  7. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    WY, RR, everyone, let me be the first to apologize if my tongue-in-cheek comment earlier on this thread about Jams offended anyone or left the impression that Carlie's abduction and murder was grist for humor. It is not. It is another terribly tragic case that had me on my knees for more than a week begging for her life. I am sick to death of seeing beautiful children go through this, that's why I'm here, like the rest of us. Our local LE have a detail called "Stranger Danger" where uniformed police officers routinely visit schools and hold in-classroom seminars to teach all grades about these kind of predators. It's been in operation for many years, and my ex worked that detail for several years before moving on to a higher calling. But it's not just the schools' responsibility, it's also the parents, to teach their kids how to stay safe. While it may lead some children to develop fear and even paranoia, those negative emotions will keep them safer than the naivete that hallmarks childhood. It's a friggin' SAD commentary on our world to say that, but it's reality.

    It's been easy for Susan Bennett, and many others I've no doubt, to defend the obviously-guilty, the derelicts, because she has not been the one who has stood at an autopsy table, watching medical procedures on a child that should never be. She has never been the one to hold the hand of a parent who's grief and loss are so overwhelming they can't breathe. She has not been on the task forces that track these predators, find the bodies, spend hours piecing shreds of evidence together, interrogate the perps and literally beg for information of every victim's whereabouts as a giant clock ticks away precious moments that will never return. The Susan Bennetts of the world sit on their computers with a mentality that makes them superstars. It's all academic, it's all glory-seeking, it's not the guts and the blood and the in-your-face horror that reduces everything in life to a stark, horrid reality that the murder of a child produces. Not, that is, until they see a videotape of it, only then does the reality pierce their worlds.

    Where have you been for the last 7 years, Jameson? Patting the shoulders of parents who spent everything they had defending themselves, suing others, denying the truth, fighting the authorities, castigating those who with sincere hearts have been on the streets investigating the Ramsey case for more hours than you have in any of your days, drying their tears of terror that THEY will get prosecuted and not for the child whose very life has been ripped away at the hands of a monster. Where have you been for the last 7 years when not injecting yourself in the most bizarre ways ever witnessed publicly in the Ramsey case, but punishing the VanDams for not glorifying you and putting you on the pedestal of their lives, defending/excusing/minimizing the scum that took their daughter's life!

    Now that you've seen the videotape of Carlie's abduction, and received a REAL epiphany, go back and look at JonBenet's autopsy photos again. Is she real to you now? Can you feel HER pain? Or is your epiphany just temporal? Are you really just another sociopath who feeds on the tragedies of others for self-gain?

    I remember back in '95 when my mother suddenly collapsed in the shower and ended up in the ER, laying on a gurney throwing cerebral aneurysms. One minute she was healthy and vital, the next she was there. She never regained consciousness, and we were forced to keep her on life support until my sis could get a flight into town. Once she arrived, the entire family gathered around her in ICU, knowing what we were facing, not wanting to go down that path. There we were, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, children, and as the nurse quietly slipped in to disconnect all those tubes and machines, we sat there, watching Mom turn blue and slip away, our hearts breaking, tears choking every one of us from uttering even one small word. Suddenly, my biker brother, the bad boy of the family, cracked a joke, a memory of Mom in a funnier time. One by one, we all started laughing, some so loudly we feared the ICU staff would kick us out or call the cops on this looney family. As Mom slipped farther and farther away, the funny memories kept coming, till the tears of horrid grief turned into tears of bittersweet love and bonding and honor for our mother. Her last act was to draw my hand, clenched in hers, to her chest, and she died with a smile on her face. My doctor-sis said that was just an involuntary reaction, she's seen it dozens of times. But I've always known Mom's spirit was there and heard her family remembering not this horrible event in her life, but the better ones, the human ones, the motherly ones, that have sustained us all and made our lives a better place to be.

    If humor in tragedy is really inappropriate, I can only say so be it. But inside, where only I can go, I know what value is has to me. May God keep and enjoy Carlie now forever, may He bless her family with peace and comfort, may we all take our sorrow and turn it into passion for justice, and may Jams bite my :(:(:(.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2004
  8. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Dejanu

    I'm so sorry about your Mum and glad that when she passed away, she was surrounded by a loving family who had wonderful memories of her.
     
  9. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    BobC

    I'm in Scotland. We don't get that programme here - but we do know who Ron Jeremy is. He's been on various documentaries about the seedy side of Hollywood.

    ******
    There are several topics that jameson is touchy about and this is one of them. She seems to want Ariana Pugh to make a statement through her lawyer to say she wasn't sexually abused by her father .... Why on earth would the girl need to do that? To satisy jameson's curiosity? Good grief, I hope Ariana Pugh does contact a lawyer.....

    As a result of jameson's allegations, the Pugh family were investigated for child abuse?/child pornography?/paedophilia?/incest? - whatever the charges would have been in that case. This is bound to have had a devastating effect on the family - especially as the allegations appear to have been unfounded. jameson considers that she is vindicated for reporting them because the police did investigate her allegations. I ask - aren't the police obligated to investigate any allegations of this kind?

    I think that jameson should consider this, it seems likely that Ariana Pugh was questioned by police as to whether she was abused by her father. jameson says the police investigation lasted 6 weeks, so it sounds as though they were thorough enough. However, since no charges were filed, I would imagine that Ariana HAS denied that she was abused - to the satisfaction of the officials who investigate the allegations - i.e. those whose concern it was.

    Given jameson's history for digging dirt on those who dare to question Ramsey innocence, one might be forgiven for suspecting that her motives for reporting the Pughs to the police for child pornography had little to do with concern for the welfare of Ariana Pugh.

    Given time, this is one more incident that may backfire on jameson AND on the Ramseys.
     
  10. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Watching You

    jameson says:-
    There was plenty of evidence which connected Westerfield to Danielle - the infamous orange fibres which were at his house and on and around her body. There was Danielle's blood on his jacket and in the motorhome that he took off in for the weekend of her disappearance. jameson tried very hard to dismiss the blood and fibre evidence as innocent transfer. Fortunately, the jurors were able to recognise the mountain of evidence against Westerfield for what it was.

    jameson says the prosecution didn't prove their case in the Westerfield trial but the question remains - didn't prove their case to whom?

    There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that if JonBenet's blood had been found on someone's jacket AND if that person had turned up first thing in the morning in an agitated state in order to have the jacket drycleaned AND if fibres found on JonBenet's body were "consistent with" fibres found in that person's tumble dryer......... jameson would have considered this to be significant.

    jameson wanted Damon to be guilty - very badly so.
     
  11. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    DejaNu

    Thank you for your poignant post about your mother. You have to have a heart, and a sense of humor, to understand. Jameson has neither.

    Jayelles, jameson uses different standards to judge the Ramsey case than she used to judge Danielle's case. There was nothing in JBR's room to suggest an intruder had been there. What was there on the body? Some trace DNA that has not and will never implicate anyone in this murder, because it can't be dated and it can't be proved it came from the killer. I hope I live 50 more years, just so I can tell jameson once more how stupid she is. There were some abrasions on JBR's body that the RST want to believe came from a stun gun. They'll never prove that, either, much as jameson wants to yammer about it. Let's see - fibers - Patsy's fibers (oh, Gawd, never say it, WY, it goes against their beliefs), other fibers that I don't know from where they came, but that doesn't mean the police don't know.

    What evidence was on Danielle's body? Can jameson be any more stupid? Her body was decayed. They couldn't even tell if she had been sexually assaulted because of the extent of the decay. They had to use dental records to identify her. Yet, jameson claims there was no evidence on her body to convict Westerfield.

    Just as jameson likes to take things out of context; for instance, one sentence out of my post that made it sound as if I were stating something as a fact instead of mocking her reasoning, as I was, she will also leave out pertinent details as she has done in this case. Danielle's body didn't yield any evidence against Molesterfield, because Danielle's body was missing its skin and most of her meat and muscle. Grow a brain, jameson, and stop posting misleading statements.

    So, the blood and hair in Westerfield's motorhome were innocent rransfer, but the trace DNA in JBR's underwear had to come from her killer.

    My nine-year-old grand niece has better reasoning powers than jameson has.
     
  12. Sabrina

    Sabrina Member

    The truth of the matter was that Jameson's forum was the laughing stock of San Diego. She was even BANNED from calling Rick Roberts talk show! That's pretty serious stuff when a radio talk show BANS someone!

    (and it was NOT because of her stance on the case- Rick Roberts had Westerfield's friends on the air-- a penpal , etc.)

    The icing on the cake was the Douglas Pierce "newly found evidence" debacle. They mostly all refused to believe it was not connected to the case (what a coincidence, huh, that Mr. Pierce finds this tarp more than one year later--and after Westerfield is already convicted!) BECAUSE the police never held a press conference! LOL! What a bunch of FOOLS! Like the police are going to announce this crap to the media and have to waste MORE time and MONEY on obvious erroneous waste materials from someone's recent picnic. Actually, if my memory serves me correctly it was Jameson who INSISTED that the police hold a press conference otherwise she was considering it potential evidence pointing away from Westerfield! LOL!

    The police were laughing all the way except when they got Mr.Pierce to trace his steps, they had to keep a straight face while hoping they would catch him up on planting false evidence!!
     
  13. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Sabreena

    Seem like jameson is known as a Code-Six Wingnut in more than one police jurisdiction in the U.S.
     
  14. Elle

    Elle Member

    DejaNu,

    It couldn't have been an easy time for you and your family to make the decision to let your mother go, but it was the right one. Family humour seems to present itself even at the saddest of moments, but I truly think this is how we are all able to survive the "worst of times."


    I was just suggesting on Crime and Justice that it would be good if this type of program was taught as part of the children's regular education, not just once in a while, but "all of the time!"

    I'll post your above quote on C and J to see if some of them do have these seminars going on in their area (?). Suggestions were asked for. I know here in Canada, they do have these seminars every now and then, but I don't think this is enough. Not in these days when children are being abducted daily.
     
  15. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Jameson is more than a wingnut, she is DANGEROUS. Her siccing the CBI on an innocent family (see my link above)is something I intend to never let anyone forget. She is a sick, sick person and people need to be reminded that she's a bit more than a harmless internet case junkie.

    I had heard for years that the Ramseys were scared of Jameson, and the police transcripts that have surfaced recently have confirmed their discomfort with her.With all the wonderful things the internet has brough American Culture, internet fraud and tampering in police cases are the downside--and Jameson is a stellar example/
     
  16. purr

    purr Active Member

    ditto

    Amen Brother ....
    to all you said!

    DANGEROUS!
     
  17. Misty4

    Misty4 Member

    Margoo/Jameson

    Jayelles,

    I saw that hypocritical statement by Margoo over yonder and responded to it at Voy. It's amazing to watch cult behavior, isn't it? That's exactly what is going on with that crew.
     
  18. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    God help us

    This is a quote taken directly from jameson's forum. The post is all BS, trying to defend herself from remarks people have made on Lou Smit's website (the one maintained by jameson?).

    Is it any wonder the JBR case is in shambles with the Code 6 wingnut from North Carolina sharing table space with the defective detective, Lou Smit?
     
  19. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    One more?

    Didn't she try to contact Scott Peterson last year or am I confusing him with another accussed murderer that she tried to offer her services to?

    RR
     
  20. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    I heard that, RR

    jameson seems to have an afinity with accused murderers and at least one convicted murderer.
     
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