"Starting Over" forum

Did Susan Bennett have her finger in all this somewhere?

 

That was a pretty embarrassing moment for Miss Marple on the CL forum when he, who always gave the impression of being omniscient on the JBR case, had to admit that he had not even read Steve Thomas' book.

 

Uhuh.

He must be in one heck of a huff. He doesn't even seem to have touched his wiki or SO forum since he left Crimelibrary.

OTOH, Margoo seems to be awol too....

 

All of the mods seem to be awol.

 

Harem?

 

I don't know. I said I wouldn't be going back, but I lied. It only gets worse.

 

There has been debate about whether the Ramseys/RST had something to do with Krebs' getting so much publicity, to ruin White, of course, who is the one person who might have something to say about Christmas night and the next morning, or about the Ramseys, that would throw some light on what happened to JonBenet. Since the Whites and the Ramseys had a significant argument/disagreement right after JonBenet was buried in Atlanta, and since no one is saying what that ACTUALLY was over, including John Ramsey, who minimalized the whole incident repeatedly, it's an open question about what the Whites know or think about this murder.

What we do know is Fleet White was openly writing letters to the press, to the governor, to the U. of Colorado, to anyone who might intervene in the atrocities taking place in the justice system allowing a child killer to go free.


So were the RST lawyers/shills involved in trying to discredit the Whites and somehow involved in using Krebs to do it? They certainly got Tom Miller arrested and tried on a bogus charge to keep him from ever testifying that Patsy wrote the note. They managed to get a subpoena for the Ramsey's phone records, significantly the "erased cell phone record" for the night of the murder, banished by Alex Hunter forevermore. They managed to get copies of the collected evidence as soon as LE got it, compliments of Hunter. And Hunter is the one person who singlehandedly sank this case, hiring Ramsey shill Lou Smit early on and handing Smit the keys to the case files in the form of that infamous PowerPoint presentation, to spread in the media as the "intruder theory". And Stephen Singular admitted on the record that Hunter told Singular to go to California to investigate Fleet White. Nancy Krebs and her lifelong shenanigans are from San Luis Obispo, Ca.

So yeah, it's arguable that Hunter/the RST orchestrated the entire Nancy Krebs attack on the Whites. Smit and Tracey both had their hands on this behind the scenes as well, in very subdued ways. But what the RST has never done, except for a few rogue dummy posters who didn't get the memo, is publicly endorse Krebs' "child sex ring" fantasies about the murder. Jams has always said she didn't buy it, that she thinks Krebs is mentally ill. There's a reason for that, and once the LE transcripts of Krebs' being interviewed by LE came out, it became clear: Krebs was a loose cannon, in the end, and FINGERED JOHN RAMSEY FULLY AS MUCH AS WHITE. Krebs stated to LE, unequivocally, that HER SOURCE for what happened to JonBenet was her family members, who were at the Whites that night WITH THE RAMSEYS, when the CHILD SEX RING was playing their child molestation games and using garrotes for autoerotic asphyxiation on the children. OOOOOoooooops. THAT wasn't going to work FOR THE RAMSEYS, now was it?

I personally have no idea how much, if anything, the RST had to do with the Krebs mess. It would have been quite a conspiracy, so I normally would say no, I don't think so. But after all the twists and turns and players we've seen burying the case against the Ramseys deliberately for a decade, I can't rule anything out. (There were YEARS when the RST laughed about how silly it was to imagine that ANYONE could get a phone record erased. HA HA HA. That was before private investigator Anthony Pellicano was arrested in California, along with his paid phone company employees who gave him confidential information about private citizens/stars and bugged phone lines for him to the tune of thousands of illegally taped phone conversations, many between lawyers and their clients about law suits involving Pellicano's clients. Ha Ha Ha, indeed.) But the Krebs' maniacal lies against the Whites only worked in this: the Whites have been through hell for not supporting the Ramsey spin that they are so innocent. Since there never was a trial, and IMO Hunter meant there never to be a trial, the testimony of the Whites never came into play in this case.

So no, jams has never promoted the Krebs' crap, though if Krebs hadn't included the Ramseys in her story, I'm sure jams would have made plenty of hay with it. She certainly never discouraged her members from accusing White of any awful thing they could imagine, and she welcomed mame to her forum, free of charge, as well, once mame had no decent forum left on which to post her malicious libels of the Whites. Of course, once jams got tired of mame taking over, jams posted her opinion of Nancy Krebs as a wingnut and mame left in a huff, insulted that ANYONE couldn't see what an HONORABLE WOMAN Krebs is, drugs, mental illness, and fantastical stories of horrible sex crimes against children aside.

 

Oh good Lord !! I just took their link off my web site.

Thanks for the heads up !

ACR

 

Well, that's just so disgusting, I can't imagine anyone is remotely moderating that forum. Why don't they just CLOSE IT if they're not going to bother keeping it up?

Hey, jams, YOU have everyone's phone number who ever joined your forum. Can't you call Margoo and tell her she's now running a porn site in the name of JonBenet? Please? We may be enemies in theory, but I don't think ANY of us want this on a JonBenet forum.

 

Thanks, Barbara and RR for the compliments, but I'm just reciting history. I don't think it would do any good to put my post about the Krebs crap up at topix because it's been put up there many times. People believe what they want to believe, and those who want to know the truth find it, those who don't, ignore it.

I was just recapping for those here who asked and/or weren't around for the low points.

 

I just openend a thread on the topic over there. The porn imagines posted clearly violate the TOS of the Starting Over forum.
So the board managers have to be reminded by a poster to observe their own TOS. This borders on the absurd. Why don't they just close that joke of a forum obviously run by no one??

http://www.bestfreeforums.com/forums/posting-vp3228-sanctuary2.html#3228

 

Obviously, no-one is moderating it or even reading it. Margoo and Marple have both disappeared off the face of the earth. Is Mame still posting at Topix (I've no idea)? To the best of my knowledge, Rainsong posts at the John Douglas forum. I wouldn't waste my time pming her there though because she's an extremely rude person and I doubt she'd thank us for it.

Isn't OEJ still around? I haven't visited jameson's since she invited JMK to post there.

 

I will gladly repost it. I just wanted KK's permission

KK?

 

Thank you, KK.

 

Lol, ACR - I give it two thumbs down! I think they took the porn links off sometime last week; maybe someone will get around to deleting the pictures this week.

 

I think I've seen OEJ post at the swamp recently, Jayelles. Karr is no longer posting there.

 

Well, thank goodness, thanks to JC and rashomon, Starting Over has removed the porn. If anybody wants to take over responsibility for the forum, oneeyedjack has made an offer:

 

:dracula: Just giving the forum away, is she?

 

I think it would be terrific if River Rat stepped up and took over as moderator! Wouldn't Mary Suma just LOVE that? :mame:

 

I hope someone takes over the forum soon, or they figure out they need to lock it down, because the porn is still being posted there.