1. EasyWriter

    EasyWriter FFJ Senior Member

    I have written a defense analysis of the Ramsey\Wood suit against
    Carol McKinley and Fox News. I wrote it on May 20, 2003.
    It was received by Mary Keenan on May 23, 2003.

    Wood's lawsuit against Fox News depends entirely upon "Lou Smit
    said." If there is any doubt, duly note that even the charge of
    malice depends upon "Lou Smit said."

    "37.
    Prior to December 27, 2002, Ms. McKinley personally viewed
    Detective Smit’s PowerPoint presentation on the JonBenét Ramsey
    murder which demonstrated and displayed actual crime scene
    evidence and police forensic reports linking an intruder to the
    brutal murder." (From the Complaint)

    So, the crime that McKinley and Fox News is charged with is not
    regarding Smit as infallible, therefore, daring to disagree.
    Notice how this runs in parallel with John and Patsy Ramsey
    making many public appearances soliciting opinions as to their
    guilt or innocence, then suing or threatening to sue anyone and
    everyone who doesn't come up with the opinion they prefer.

    I find it more than a bit presumptuous to claim that Carol
    Mckinley damaged the reputation of the Ramseys when it is the
    ever-changing stories out of their own mouths that has placed and
    kept them under the "umbrella of suspicion" more than anything
    else.

    Since Wood's suit depending solely on "Smit said" has been
    refuted many times over not only by myself, but by others as
    well, rather than repeat here, I incorporate by reference all my
    online analysis and the letters to DA Keenan.

    Not only is Wood's suit without any factual foundation, meaning
    without ANY evidence of an intruder, it is also fatally flawed
    in legal and logical argument.

    According to Wood, McKinley's damaging and slanderous statement
    was:

    "28.
    Whomever killed her spent a long time in the family home. Yet,
    there has never been any evidence to link an intruder to her
    brutal murder." (ibid)

    From this Wood deduces:

    "29.
    The gist of the statements uttered by Ms. McKinley in the
    Ramsey segment is that in all probability, one or more of the
    Ramseys murdered JonBenét." (ibid)


    Aside from the fact, there is no evidence of an intruder, his
    case is technically dead by violation of THE RULES OF CRIMINAL
    PROCEDURE.

    Suppose there is a robbery in a department store with robber
    unknown, are all who had ability and opportunity charged with the
    crime? Could the police legally go in and arrest all who were in
    the store? If it were reported in a newspaper that some person
    or persons in the department store committed the robbery, is this
    accusing all? Would all those in the department store have
    grounds for a slander suit?

    Based on the rationale of the Wood's suit against Fox News, they
    would. I have a few questions for Mr. Wood to make the point:

    Q. If three persons are the only ones in a house with ability and
    opportunity when a crime has been committed, by what legal
    criteria do you accuse and charge all of the three when the crime
    may have been committed by only one, or two?

    Q. If the BPD had concluded that some person or persons in the
    Ramsey house killed JonBenet, would it have been legal for them
    to arrest, charge and bring all three to trial?

    Q. Do you not have to legally have specific evidence linking one
    or more persons to the crime before any legal action can be
    taken?

    Q. Do you charge all three simply on the basis of guilt by
    proximity and association?

    Q. If so, what is your directive statute (federal or state) or
    court precedent for this?

    Some questions on a minor point:

    Q. When Ms. McKinley states no intruder evidence, does this
    statement in itself exclude the possibility of an intruder?

    Q. Is it possible for an intruder to enter and leave a residence
    and leave no detectable evidence?

    Q. If it can be done, how does Ms. McKinley's statement
    constitute an absolute accusation of the Ramseys?

    Q. Doesn't your Complaint say that Ms. McKinley said there is no
    evidence of an intruder?

    Q. Does it say that Ms. McKinley said it is impossible for there
    to be an intruder?

    Some questions on a major point:

    Q. Even accepting the premise of no intruder, is it not possible
    that not all of the Ramsey household participated in the crime
    scene?

    Q. Even if we disregard the idea of intruder leaving no
    detectable evidence, does not Ms. McKinley's statement imply at
    least one, but not necessarily all?

    Q. How then, Mr. Wood, do you allege all three Ramseys as defamed
    when this is neither expressed nor implied in Ms. McKinley's
    statement?

    Q. Whom exactly did Ms. Mckinley accuse?

    Q. Did she accuse all three?

    Q. Did she accuse any specific one?

    Q. Did she accuse any specific two?

    Q. If you cannot identify any person accused, upon what do you
    presume to establish a Complainant?

    Q. If you can do this, can not Law Enforcement by the same
    rationale arrest and try all in the Ramsey house on that fateful
    evening?

    Another major point:

    Q. Is Carol McKinley the only one who has stated there is no
    evidence of an intruder?

    Q. Have any of the law enforcement bodies involved in the
    investigation every issued the statement: "There is evidence of
    an intruder, therefore, the Ramseys are declared innocent?"

    Q. If not, why then have you not sued these law enforcement
    bodies for having evidence of intruder, yet not clearing your
    clients? To wit, this statement from Mary Keenan:

    "Keenan declined to comment for this story, but when the lawsuit
    was dismissed, she said she agreed with the judge's conclusion
    and that her office is following new leads that support the
    intruder theory. However, she said she was not influenced by the
    judge's decision, which was only based on partial evidence, and
    would not exclude the Ramseys from investigation." (DailyCamera,
    May 25, 2003)"

    Q. Do you agree, Mr. Wood there can be NO evidence of something
    that is not true, that is, there can't be evidence of an intruder
    AND evidence of Ramsey guilt?

    Q. One logically excludes the other, does it not?

    Q. So, when Mary Keenan says she "would not exclude the Ramseys
    from investigation", isn't this clearly and logically implying
    they have no evidence of an intruder?

    Q. Since Carol McKinley's statement if nothing more than a
    confirmation of Keenan's statement, why a suit again McKinley and
    Fox News and not against Keenan and the Boulder DA's Office?

    As for ALL the "evidence via the unknown:, one question:

    Q. How would you in court go about entering this unknown as
    exculpatory evidence?

    Q. Would you specifically cite the RULE OR RULES OF CRIMINAL
    PROCEDURE by which you present "evidence via the unknown?"

    I've been an unofficial "law dawg" for several decades involving
    all sorts of legal matters including libel and slander. I have
    probably done more legal research that half the lawyers in the
    state. I'll be damned if I can recall any factual OR legal basis
    for the suit again Carol McKinley and Fox News.

    Would you mind clearing up this matter by answering a few more
    questions?

    Q. In reference to the list of items under "FACTUAL BACKGROUND",
    by what criteria did you separate fact from fiction to arrive at
    the conclusion that all the items in the list are facts?

    Q. Is it anything more than "Lou Smit said" with ill informed
    agreement by Judge Carnes? If so, what?

    Q. Can you provide any actual physical evidence in the crime
    scene that can be explained ONLY by intruder cause? If so, what?
    Why?

    Q. Given the specific content of Ms. McKinleys statement which
    identifies no particular party and is nothing more than an
    agreement with the de facto official law enforcement stance,
    under what statute or code did you file the Complaint?

    I can find nothing under 42 U.S.C., SECTION 1983, or anywhere
    else that even remotely supports such a suit under such
    conditions. Would you mind providing some specific legal
    references?

    "? A three-page handwritten ransom note which law
    enforcement experts have not identified as being authored
    by any member of the Ramsey family;" (ibid)

    Q. Do these experts have names?

    Q. To what experts are you referring?

    Q Have all the experts failed to name a Ramsey as author?

    Q. Have any of the experts come up with the name of the author
    outside of the Ramsey household?

    Q. Mr. Wood, would you say that whatever was in the note had to
    be in the mind of the note writer?

    Q. The demand amount of $118,000 had to be in the mind of the
    writer didn't it?

    Q. If you were to ask ten million persons to name a ransom
    amount, how many do you think would come up with the
    figure,$118,000?

    Q. Several might come up with $50,000, $100,000, or even in the
    millions, but what of $118,000?

    Q. What do you estimate the odds to be against this number
    turning up by random selection for a ransom note amount?

    Q. This means the number had significance in the mind of the note
    writer does it not?

    Q. Do you believe that the correlation between the ransom note
    amount and the $118,000 amount of John's bonus is purely
    coincidence?

    For nearly four years, I have issued an invitation to anyone who
    believes there is evidence of an intruder to meet me online and
    answer some questions about the alleged evidence of an alleged
    intruder. In spite of all the claims and hoopla about alleged
    evidence of an alleged intruder, including the recent lawsuit
    against Fox News, not a single person has accepted my invitation.

    I presume there is something missing from my invitation. Maybe,
    it's money. Maybe that's all the intruder theorists really
    understand. Therefore, I will yield to their implicit request. I
    will pay $100,000 just to see a single item of evidence of an
    intruder. I'll give the item back. I just want to see it.

    This, of course, raises the question as to what is or is not
    evidence. This question is easily answered by a specific example.
    One of the items Mr. Wood lists as evidence of an intruder is:

    "? Two pairs of marks on JonBenét?s body which indicate that
    a stun gun was used to subject and torture her;"(ibid)

    Again, this is from Smit. One of the reasons Smit called the
    marks evidence of a stun gun is what he "saw" between the marks:

    Smit: "The stun gun that we came up with is this one and it’s the
    Air Taser stun gun. When the stun gun is energized you see a
    light blue mark and if you look closely at the blow-up you'll see
    a light blue mark extending from one of the marks to the other on
    the back of JonBenét." (From Documentary}

    As "evidence", Mr. Smit says the stun gun left a blue mark on
    JonBenet's skin. For this claim to qualify as evidence and take
    the $100,000, all someone, Mr. Wood, or anyone else, has to do is
    get a stun gun, any stun gun, and create blue marks on the skin
    with it.

    Any takers? I didn't think so. A wise decision. It can't be done.

    The "blue mark evidence" is typical of the "quality" of Smit's
    "evidence of an intruder." That has been shown in detail by
    earlier analysis and won't be repeated here. For the record, none
    of this analysis has even been challenged, let alone refuted.

    Given the fact that information pointing out the flaws in Smit's
    alleged evidence of an alleged intruder is readily available
    online and via Mary Keenan, to call Smit's illusions and
    confusion "Factual Background" is not only ludicrous, it shows a
    total disregard for truth. To present this nonsense as "fact" in
    a lawsuit accusing Carol McKinley of slander is irresponsible and
    abominable. Mr. Wood is right: Damages should be paid, but like
    everything else in the suit, he has it backwards. It is Carol
    McKinley and Fox News who are entitled to damages for the time
    and money consuming intrusion of a frivolous suit.

    EasyWriter
     
  2. Elle

    Elle Member

    These are excellent questions EasyWriter, and I wish you could get the chance to personally put them before Lin Wood.


    I find it more than a bit presumptuous to claim that Carol
    Mckinley damaged the reputation of the Ramseys when it is the
    ever-changing stories out of their own mouths that has placed and
    kept them under the "umbrella of suspicion" more than anything
    else.

    I agree with this. The Ramseys have brought suspicion upon themselves
    with their inconsistent statements.


    Q. So, when Mary Keenan says she "would not exclude the Ramseys
    from investigation", isn't this clearly and logically implying
    they have no evidence of an intruder?

    I would say it was!

    Q. Since Carol McKinley's statement if nothing more than a
    confirmation of Keenan's statement, why a suit again McKinley and
    Fox News and not against Keenan and the Boulder DA's Office?

    Why indeed?

    Q. If you were to ask ten million persons to name a ransom
    amount, how many do you think would come up with the
    figure,$118,000?

    none! The figure was already in Patsy Ramsey's head. Her husband's bonus.

    For nearly four years, I have issued an invitation to anyone who
    believes there is evidence of an intruder to meet me online and
    answer some questions about the alleged evidence of an alleged
    intruder. In spite of all the claims and hoopla about alleged
    evidence of an alleged intruder, including the recent lawsuit
    against Fox News, not a single person has accepted my invitation.

    This I cannot understand (?) Just wish there was someone available in the media to bring this about.

    Given the fact that information pointing out the flaws in Smit's
    alleged evidence of an alleged intruder is readily available
    online and via Mary Keenan, to call Smit's illusions and
    confusion "Factual Background" is not only ludicrous, it shows a
    total disregard for truth. To present this nonsense as "fact" in
    a lawsuit accusing Carol McKinley of slander is irresponsible and
    abominable. Mr. Wood is right: Damages should be paid, but like
    everything else in the suit, he has it backwards. It is Carol
    McKinley and Fox News who are entitled to damages for the time
    and money consuming intrusion of a frivolous suit.

    Not being an American, I don’t understand the American law system. Isn’t there anyone in a high position who can see through this peacock of a lawyer and put an end to all these Ramsey lawsuits? This seems to be the way they make their living. I don’t think John Ramsey will ever be a CEO again.

    I feel if this case had been in Great Britain, or here in Canada, the Ramseys would have been arrested on the spot - right after JonBenét’s body was found.
     
  3. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    What is never noted, but is absolutely CRUCIAL, is that almost nobody has STOOD UP to Wood. Media outlets like FOX News see the whole scenario in terms of dollars and cents--is it cheaper to pay this shakedown artist off, or is it worth beating him down, legally? It is as simple as that. This whole Wood deal is a great example of how sick our legal system has become.

    We have three people in a LOCKED HOUSE with a dead little girl and a staged crine scene. The parents have been on TV more than the Wizard of Oz, and they AREN'T PUBLIC FIGURES? They can discuss the case, but nobody else can? I think it's ********.

    This is having a chilling effect on Free Speech and things will only get worse. Who's next? Michael Jackson? Scott Peterson? When you talk Ramseys, you are not talking about a quiet, dignified couple trying to retain their privacy, while a lynch mob press convicts them on the shoddiest of circumstantial evidence.

    FOX better stand up to this guy and for once, maybe the almighty dollar should take a backseat to morality. If they don't stand up, then soon it will not be possible to discuss anyone at any time.
     
  4. Elle

    Elle Member

    Well said Bob! I can't add a single word to what you've posted here. Lin Wood has dollar signs in his eyes. $ $
     
  5. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    BobC,

    I whole heartedly agree with everything you said. Someone has to stand up to Woody. Now would be a good time. Every time they dont' and just pay rather than go to trial he "wins" more money for his clients. yeechuchess!

    In todays paper is the article about sending that "new" and "improved" sample of DNA off to the lab for testing. It concludes by saying that it was sent off last month. Huh! Last month? I thought it just happened. There is an inference that the BPD may have had this sample all along but did nothing about it. Now Keenan's new dog has this "new" proof.

    Could anything be more convoluted that this case is getting to be? And of course the timing of this is questionable...right at Christmas time 7 years later! Whata mess!

    Suppose the "new" and "improved" DNA comes back zero for matches or zero for anything. Then what will Woody do?
     
  6. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Good questions for LW, Easy Writer! I'd love to see him on the stand....

    Zoomama, see my post on the underwear thread of the latest news article regarding this "new" DNA evidence. Whenever it actually was sent to the FBI, it was immediately run through CODIS and NO MATCH came up. None, zero, zip, zilch. Wood acknowledges this in that article, but holds out hope that a match will occur when the BACKLOG of DNA samples are loaded into CODIS. Furthermore, an expert interviewed for the article makes it clear there can be no match of this DNA evidence unless the donor had already been ordered to submit a sample for CODIS logging and had already been convicted of a felony. I also posted a news history of this DNA evidence since the autopsy in 1996 that clearly reveals that Wood's claims that the BDA never had access to it until Keenan took over the case and that the BPD "hid" it in the case files is patently false. Hunter discussed this evidence with Dr. Lee alone no less than 7 times over the years.

    This entire "new DNA" spin is just more overdramatic hype manufactured by Wood to get his name and face in the public eye again.
     
  7. EasyWriter

    EasyWriter FFJ Senior Member



    That is exactlly what it is and nothing else. ALL the evidence says no intruder. If the DNA does not belong to the Ramseys, you can bet it has nothing to do with the death of JonBenet. You may rest assured that any claptrap to the contrary put out by Wood or any of the RST is just another lie.
     
  8. Elle

    Elle Member

    Dejanu,

    Does Lin Wood think priority will be given to this DNA sample because he appeared on CNN? There's only a two year old backup waiting in the DNA bank!! Or is this a ploy to keep the Ramsey accusers at bay? I am tired of seeing Lin Wood on Larry King Live, CNN and 48 hours. It appears to be very one sided for the last few years. Is Lin Wood a friend of Ted Turner's by any chance?:mad:
     
  9. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Elle, I wish I DID have a crystal ball to answer your question. But knowing LW's ego, I'm sure he thinks that if he keeps this spin in the constant media, it WILL get priority attention. Perhaps we all need to polish up on our suffering fools skills.....
     
  10. purr

    purr Active Member

    brilliant...........incredibly brilliant, Easy Writer

    thanks for this thread.......your posts...

    you are truly brilliant........

    here is what i say..........
    to agree with BobC.

    NO ONE has stood up to Linn Woodsy...........

    i think that this forum should.

    i have posted several ideas........

    an ad in the Boulder paper......

    however, maybe we should decide
    to be even Bolder..........

    to find a news station..........
    or a radio station that
    would let us........
    debate Linn Wood.........

    or somehow.......We, our forum, MUST get
    the TRUTH out there.

    who should we contact.........
    who would let us have a national forum to
    tell THE TRUTH.

    maybe a magazine.........

    let's but our "collective" brains
    together.......and DO THIS.

    enough of this nonsense............7 years is long enough.

    i saw maybe we publish Easy Writer's questions
    in the Boulder paper........in a national paper.

    let's get people thinking.........and then
    we wont be the only ones who KNOW that
    Linn/Ramsey's are lying.

    what do you ya'll think?

    it is time for this show.......this "pageant" to be OVER!

    purrfectly serious,
    purr
     
  11. EasyWriter

    EasyWriter FFJ Senior Member

    Re: brilliant...........incredibly brilliant, Easy Writer

     
  12. Sabrina

    Sabrina Member

    Elle

    Elle,

    What is your source for a "2 year' backup for DNA to be entered into CODIS?
     
  13. Elle

    Elle Member

    Purr,

    I personally think that no one would pay any attention in Boulder. The locals there can't stand the Ramseys and the trouble they've brought to their city.

    I don't blame EasyWriter for feeling the way he does. He has tried umpteen times.

    There's only one person who makes me think of a "Bulldozer" and that's Jann Scott. I have only read a few of his columns, but he seems to be the one who shouts it all out and doesn't give a damn what Lin Wood or the Ramseys think about him. I haven't seen any of his TV because I'm in Canada, but you truly need someone like him who doesn't do things in a refined way. Meanwhile, we can hold on to our dignity here at the forums we frequent, and give our strong support. At least we are still trying!

    I must admit Purr, with the way things have been going lately, I wonder if Tom Bennet is one of the "Keenan" gang (?) and is just
    going through the motions rather than really getting his teeth into the JonBenét case and forming his own opinions. I read that he is also helping with the Koby Grant investigation.

    For the life of me I cannot understand why Tom Bennet doesn't throw out the "intruder theory" completely, seeing the "broken window being found open story" was believed by Lou Smit when he heard it from John Ramsey, and the intruder theory was born. This should have been classified as "hearsay"...no one witnessed it, therefore why do we have people believing it?
     
  14. Elle

    Elle Member

    Codis

    Sabrina,

    On CNN Lin Wood stated they were two years behind with this DNA bank. Can you imagine this latest DNA entry of JonBenét's being squeezed in (?). I'm sure others heard him say this and can confirm it for me (?).
     
  15. Thor

    Thor Active Member

    I heard it too, Elle. I taped the short Today show segment with Ann Curry and heard him mention specifically "two years" backup for testing this stuff.
     
  16. purr

    purr Active Member

    hi elle

    yep jannscott would be a good one to
    feed lots of info to.

    he knows we speak the truth.

    also, i hope you dont think i was against
    what easy rider said..........i
    agree totally with what he said.

    well, i will not give up trying to get the word out.

    i firmly believe there will be a "break" in this case
    and jonbenet will get the justice she deserves.

    and also, YES RC is THE man of the year.
    wow, the Ramsey's could learn a think or two
    from him.

    RC, i am so proud you belong here.........and
    that you are such a fine man.......with great integrity!!!!

    applause to RC,
    purr
     
  17. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    48 Hours

    allowed the skank to go on their program and trash Don Foster. She's nobody special, so why wouldn't they let another side be told? Perhaps it is that program who needs to be reminded that they have allowed one-sided crap to be publicized, and now it's time to allow at least equal time to Easy Writer to challenge Wood's self-serving trash.
     
  18. Elle

    Elle Member

    I don't remember thinking that way, Purr, Sorry!(?). Whatever did I say? I'm very proud to tell you that Delmar England ( EasyWriter) is a regular correspondent of mine, and a valued friend. I feel so frustrated that no one will have him on any show to hear what he has to say. To prove he knows what he's talking about when it comes to the analysis of the ransom note and the garrote etc. etc. So ... I didn't think you were against anything he said. Trust me!

    You certainly sound very enthusiastic to do something, Purr. I'll happily join in anything you want to do, as long as it's not catching a plane to Boulder or Atlanta. Mind you, if I was a lot younger, I think I would have been very tempted to visit Larry King and ask him to have Delmar England on his show to talk about the JonBenét case.
     
  19. Elle

    Elle Member

    Thanks for the confirmation, Thor. Sabrina will appreciate it. Thanks to you for telling me to watch this show. You're always on top of news like this. Much appreciated.
     
  20. Sabrina

    Sabrina Member

    I personally think Mr. Wood misspoke if he implied it takes 2 years for every sample to get entered into CODIS.

    Or do you think he meant it took 2 years for JonBenet's? Like they had the 10 markers but were so backlogged it did not get entered for 2 years? I don't believe that.

    OR maybe he meant it took 2 years because there were not 10 markers, and it took them 2 years to refine the testing to identify those markers?

    He had said not too long ago that the DNA was close to being certified. They were developing the number of markers needed to enter it.

    I know he also accused the BPD of sitting on DNA and not testing it because it might point to an intruder. I don't believe that spin either.

    Oh, what webs are woven around this DNA.....


    What I understand is actually backlogged is the testing of covicted felons from many years ago and old crime scene evidence that occurred before DNA testing was around-- AND the retesting of samples which were originally done from the old RFLP to the latest refined technologies.

    No 2 year backlog entering NEW samples into the database.
    This is a simple data entry procedure.

    I'll find out for sure next week, but I can ASSURE you David Westerfield's DNA got into that CODIS databank pronto and it did not take 2 years!!
     
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