suspects father speaks out.

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Tricia, Aug 17, 2006.

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  1. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    A really good friend sent me this article from the Denver Post.

    "Extensive criminal history"

    But a Colorado state official said John Karr has an extensive criminal record for sexual assaults across the South, including Tennessee.
    He said his son never lived in Colorado and had nothing to do with the crime.

    "We are taking no stock in it because it's not his nature," Wexford Karr said. "This JonBenét Ramsey has destroyed my life as an old man. I thought my son was dead. I couldn't take it."

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4192717

    Shocked dad had thought son was dead
    By Kirk Mitchell
    Denver Post Staff Writer

    John Mark Karr (Courtesy of Wexford Karr)

    John Mark Karr's arrest in Thailand after he had vanished for several years was a mixed blessing for his 85-year-old father.

    "I thought someone had killed him," Wexford Karr said Wednesday afternoon while sobbing during a telephone interview from his home in Atlanta. "This is such a surprise that he is alive."

    But learning his son was alive came with the news that his son, who is 41, was arrested in the Dec. 26, 1996, slaying of JonBenét Ramsey, he said.

    John Karr had disappeared after his release from jail in 2001. Karr, who relatives said had long spoken of a fascination with the Ramsey case, told his father at the time that he was being held for investigation of murdering the girl.

    In truth, John Karr was being held while awaiting trial for five counts of child pornography, said Sgt. Rob Giordano, spokesman for the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department. When he finally was released on bond, he disappeared and was convicted in absentia.

    Wexford Karr had never heard that his son had been arrested on any previous criminal charges. But a Colorado state official said John Karr has an extensive criminal record for sexual assaults across the South, including Tennessee.

    John Karr's father said his son didn't go to college as a youth because he didn't have enough money to send him. John and his wife, Lara, had three sons in three years, his father said. The oldest boy is about 14, he said.

    It wasn't until all three children were born that John Karr went to college, majoring in education. He graduated with honors, Wexford Karr said.

    "He is just an exemplary son," he said.

    His son's troubles can be traced back to a decision while he was still in college to write a school paper about the JonBenét Ramsey case several years ago, Wexford Karr said.

    John Karr's college professor was so impressed with the paper that he encouraged him to write a book about JonBenét's case, his father said.

    "He researched everything he could about her," Wexford Karr said.

    John Karr spoke with JonBenét's grandparents, but her parents refused to speak with him, Wexford Karr said. John Ramsey told 9News on Wednesday that he does not believe the family knew Karr.

    When Wexford Karr asked his son about what he uncovered for his book, John was quiet.

    "He wouldn't talk about it," he said.

    The research continued when John Karr moved his family to Petaluma, Calif., and he told his father he had taken a job at a Catholic girls school in San Francisco.

    While teaching at the school, John joined the Catholic Church, his father said.

    Karr applied with a school district in Sonoma County, Calif., to be a substitute teacher in their K-12 system and received a state teaching permit in January 2001, said Superintendent Carl Wong.

    In April 2001, the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department alerted school officials that John Karr had been arrested on a "non-school-related incident," Wong said.

    "Based on the serious nature of that, we issued a notice of personnel action in June 2001, and he was never again employed in any capacity in the K-12 public school system," he said.

    Asked whether students, teachers or parents ever had a complaints about Karr, Wong said, "None whatsoever."

    After John Karr's arrest, Lara Karr filed for divorce.

    "She said the name Karr has destroyed her life," Wexford Karr said.

    The divorce prohibited John Karr from seeing his three sons.

    "He loved those boys," Wexford Karr said. "They meant everything to him."

    He said his son never lived in Colorado and had nothing to do with the crime.

    "We are taking no stock in it because it's not his nature," Wexford Karr said. "This JonBenét Ramsey has destroyed my life as an old man. I thought my son was dead. I couldn't take it."

    Staff writer Kirk Mitchell can be reached at 303-820-1206 or kmitchell@denverpost.com.
     
    Tricia, Aug 17, 2006
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  2. Show Me

    Show Me FFJ Senior Member

    Very interesting Tricia.

    Can they place Karr the night JB was killed in Colorado? If not, then what?

    Will all the hype over a possible suspect clear the Ramseys?
     
    Show Me, Aug 17, 2006
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  3. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    I don't think there will ever, in history, be a case so completely strange as this case.

    So...this guy had no college education in 1996?

    And does he or does he not have a history of sex offenses across the South?

    Have they or have they not matched his DNA to those partial samples? Is there a full sample we don't know about they matched?

    And again, does this clear all the OTHER TRACEY SUSPECTS we've seen paraded on TV in his crocs?


    Or is this going to be another gang of Boulderite pedophiles in a child sex ring thing?
     
    koldkase, Aug 17, 2006
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  4. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    How do you ACCIDENTLY strangle a child and crack her skull in half?

    How did he know personal information about the Ramseys?

    How did he imitate Patsy's speech and writing?

    Why did JonBenet eat pineapple with him without screaming out?

    Why did the Ramseys lie so many times to LE?

    How is the Boudler DA going to prosecute a man whose defense will be that the BPD was incompetent and the evidence was compromised, plus Patsy wrote the note?

    And most importantly, just WHAT information did this man have that isn't already compromised by all the publicity from Smit's PowerPoint and jams' sale of the police interviews, Woody's publishing of the many depos? The publication of the 2000 LE interviews?
     
    koldkase, Aug 17, 2006
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  5. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    Good morning all,

    After one helluva night on this I have come to my personal conclusion that this is nothing more than an RST orchestrated publicity stunt, with "friends of John Ramsey" calling MSNBC and Dan Abrams all day long to report this arrest with the help of Wood, I am sure.

    This will be nothing more than a whacko who was, AFTER THE FACT, obsessed with JBR, but will let the public who DOESN'T follow the case feel bad for the Ramsey family given the extensive interviews with the RST.

    This had all the intrigue the RST could hope for: Bankok, Thailand with a convicted sex offender who CONFESSED. Could it get any better for the RST? I think not. They took this opportunity to take full advantage of the publicity this would get as it relates to the JBR case.

    This is not the killer; but you all know that
     
    Barbara, Aug 17, 2006
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  6. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Well, I will say this: I hope the man gets a darn good lawyer, because he's going to be railroaded as far as they can ride him for the intruder.
     
    koldkase, Aug 17, 2006
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  7. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    If he had no college education, how could he be a teacher?

    If they had even a partial match on the DNA, they would be announcing it in capital letters.

    This guy's ex-wife said he was with her in Alabama at the time of the murder.

    This guy is a nutcase. His father said he didn't even know his son was alive until now - he disappeared a few years ago and he thought his son was dead. He said his son was interested in the JBR case and he (the father) encouraged him to research it and write about it.

    I said last night I don't believe it, and I still don't.
     
    Watching You, Aug 17, 2006
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  8. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    I'm sorry but this guy sucks more than Patsy at acting.

    RR
     
    RiverRat, Aug 17, 2006
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  9. Moab

    Moab Admin Staff Member

    RST is going to ride this just as they did when Judge Carnes announced her decision. It doesn't matter if the information is right, just that the press announces it.

    Major media is going to cringe for jumping onto this bandwagon.
     
    Moab, Aug 17, 2006
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  10. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Oh, it's worse than that. For all Wood and JR's posturing, this man is already convicted and hanged.

    You think the Ramseys were "lynched" in public, RST? This guy will probably end up dead before he ever gets a lawyer to protect him from the RST feeding frenzy.

    And that, my friends, is the perfect ending to the perfect murder in the perfect town.
     
    koldkase, Aug 17, 2006
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  11. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Only if we did not exist.

    RR
     
    RiverRat, Aug 17, 2006
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  12. Karole28

    Karole28 Banned


    I would throw myself in front of a bus if that happened.

    Can you imagine? This guy's plane goes down, he trips and falls and hits his head on a rock/knife/pointy object, he gets a bad case of the Taiwanese flu...

    And he'll be the murderer for all time.
     
    Karole28, Aug 17, 2006
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  13. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Exactly.

    Did anyone else hear FoxNews just say Karr WAS WITH THE RAMSEY FAMILY THAT CHRISTMAS?

    Or am I just hallucinating at this point?
     
    koldkase, Aug 17, 2006
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  14. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    You heard correctly.... FoxNews reporter did say Karr was with theRamsey family that Christmas.
     
    Catfish, Aug 17, 2006
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  15. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    What?!

    LOL - he was with the Rams?! Okay! This is going to be easier than I thought and now the whole world is watching again as John Ramsey is left holding the Bag!

    KK - I told a very good friend last night that I am more nervous about this guy staying alive than I was about an actual conviction. You are not alone with that thought process.

    Tracy practiced this already with the Dead Suspect, remember that everyone. This Karr person is totally under the influence of Drugs and Thugs.......think Nancy Krebs.....all of these prior scams were just warm up for this - unfortunately, the rest of the world has not followed the antics of the Ramseys and Tracey as well as we have.

    RR
     
    RiverRat, Aug 17, 2006
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  16. Karole28

    Karole28 Banned

    WTF?

    Why would Fleet and Pricilla believe their best friends to have killed "that child" when there was a PERFECTLY GOOD SUSPECT HAVING DINNER WITH THEM???????


    :devil:
     
    Karole28, Aug 17, 2006
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  17. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    EXACTLY.

    :unreal:
    RR
     
    RiverRat, Aug 17, 2006
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  18. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    RR,

    Great minds (or sick minds) do think alike. I was just about to post that I am sooooo very very very very worried that this man will not live to be cleared.

    If he dies (suicide or otherwise), it's another dead guy to blame

    I know that's an awful thing to say and think, but my gut reaction is that this guy might not live to clear his own name. I pray he's around long enough to go to prison for his OTHER crimes after being cleared of this one

    :pray:
     
    Barbara, Aug 17, 2006
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  19. Harley

    Harley Member

    What a Crock!!!

    I don't believe it for a second. Also, now is the time before they have this guy convicted and hung for Fleet White to step up and tell what he knows.
     
    Harley, Aug 17, 2006
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  20. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Look how doped up he is! Reminds me of when Nancy Krebs for soooooo many reasons. That pack of Stine, Suma, Bennett and Tracy have perfected this scam for years right out in plain view for all to see.

    We are being raked over the coals for even ever suspecting that the law enforcement avoiding Ramseys were not being honest with the world, and all of the Swamp's previous suspects that were definitely "The One" are supposed to leave our databanks. What a way to start the day!

    RR
     
    RiverRat, Aug 17, 2006
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